crash63 said:Byzantium is easy for a player. With AI, it's another problem.
The A.I doesn't reload previous better save games or use cheats.
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The A.I doesn't reload previous better save games or use cheats.
Byzantium has no need to cheat, anything that revolts in that area will be all HAIL THE ROMAN EMPIRE -joins byzantium-
I just created revolt risks on crete/naxos/cyprus/achea/athens and I got a lot of provinces out of that, then you just need to cut off the ottoman forces in anatolia and let the revolters go nuts, you'll force them into being stuck on the anatolia, and all the provinces will join you in the Grecian area.
On a related note, I find byzantium to be over-powered to hell. It's likely to dominate the balkans, and it has events to get cores on italy!?
I just created revolt risks on crete/naxos/cyprus/achea/athens and I got a lot of provinces out of that, then you just need to cut off the ottoman forces in anatolia and let the revolters go nuts, you'll force them into being stuck on the anatolia, and all the provinces will join you in the Grecian area.
On a related note, I find byzantium to be over-powered to hell. It's likely to dominate the balkans, and it has events to get cores on italy!?
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I've yet to see the AI do well as Byzantium. I think it's represented just fine in IN.
Not saying it can't happen at all, but it seems to be an aberration, not a definite trend.
DaPacemDomine said:
I've only played a little so far, but this is my experience as well.
GenericUsername said:
I was in the same boat as you. Then I saw that lucky nations were historic, turned it to random, and subsequently myself and Serbia blasted the European OE while they had their hands full with Timurid and Co.
Saulot said:
It just requires one 'big' revolt for Byzantium to ressurect if it dies off.
The reason being, AI ottoman doesn't convert its provinces.
I played a game as Bavaria, earlier, and just for kicks I adjusted the history/provinces files to give Byzantium Edirne, Macedonia, Salonica, and that-new-province-with-Varna-as-the-capital-which-I-can't-quite-remember, and they still got their butts kicked. So not much to worry about the Byzantines being overpowered, IMHO.
I dont have IN but from my experiences with byzmod the byzantines seem to be very formidable and incredibly fun to play as
Er, my issues with byz rely on the fact that you won't see them become powerful early.
THey become powerful after they die off.
"If you strike me down, I will become more powerful then you could ever imagine"
That kind of thing. It's because of nationalist revolters, and ottomans spread thin.
THey become powerful after they die off.
"If you strike me down, I will become more powerful then you could ever imagine"
That kind of thing. It's because of nationalist revolters, and ottomans spread thin.
Well the Ottomans had to deal with serious Greek insurgencies until Greece gained statehood, and for a fair span of time afterwards, besides.
From what I've read (haven't gotten IN yet) it seems that game has been balanced for historic lucky nations. So what settings people that have seen strong Byzantium have been using?
good point. Never underestimate the power of rebels.panther-anthro said:Er, my issues with byz rely on the fact that you won't see them become powerful early.
THey become powerful after they die off.
"If you strike me down, I will become more powerful then you could ever imagine"
panther-anthro said:Er, my issues with byz rely on the fact that you won't see them become powerful early.
THey become powerful after they die off.
"If you strike me down, I will become more powerful then you could ever imagine"
Interesting. I hadn't paid attention to see what happened after the OE thrashed them, so I'll watch for that.
I didn't think about checking if the OE had the lucky tag in that game. I did have lucky nations set on Historical though. That helps a lot, thanks.Outlaw Rudy said:
DarthJF said:
What nations get the lucky trait on historical?
Also a bit off-topic, is Byz in the latin tech group? If not, is there an event that changes that?
IIRC Byzantium is in the Eastern tech group. There is a decision to Westernize that requires a certain level of centralization, a certain level of innovativeness, a good ruler (i forget the exact requirement), and a +3 stability.
Saulot said:
I've done this but I'm confused about one thing. I think before when you westernized your troop choices became western as well. I've westernized as Byzantine but I still have eastern troops.
Edit: The Byzantine Emperor has also been elected Holy Roman Emperor
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Speaking of Bysans. Has anyone noticed something odd with Naxos? In both my games as Bysans Naxos is independent at the start, but quickly reverts back to me via rebels who stands there forever if you don't do anything. Why? Because when the rebels succeed it turns back to me and new rebels emerge. It's a very strange beahvior that I haven't seen anywhere else.