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Magnificent Genius

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Okay, here we go. I've got a nice start for Byzantium, which hopefully I will get the Basileus achievement this time, but I was thinking about where to go after that, and I had this idea of turning into Rum and seeing what havoc I could wreak with Janissaries, Devshirme and Theme decisions, and being Shia with the -10% shock damage received school.

There is only one problem. I need to form another nation in between Byz and Rum. I can't really think of any with the possible exception of Persia.

I'm unsure what to do here.
 

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Maybe Romania or Armenia? I'd say Armenia is the best choice, since as Byzantium you'd probably want to ally Poland, and to form Romania you'd need to eat Moldavia. Only thing is that you'd need to switch to Coptic.
 

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Form Persia you will get Feudal theocracy government, free claims on Persia and event switching to Shia. If you you're lucky you can put Timurid on throne and form Timmies and inherit their cores and then form Rum if you want.
 

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Maybe Romania or Armenia? I'd say Armenia is the best choice, since as Byzantium you'd probably want to ally Poland, and to form Romania you'd need to eat Moldavia. Only thing is that you'd need to switch to Coptic.

Unless something has changed & the Wiki is out of date, Romania is not an option as Byzantium (one of the requirements for Romania is that Byzantium does not exist)?
 

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aham... before you do someting stupid... byzantium forbidden to form persia ... just saying (it would be great if it was possible... all that tolerance of true faith + extra missionary with goverment of persia... oh my :D)
 

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Croatia is my best suggestion. Not far from your start, Venice and Hungary are enemies you'd very likely meet along the way, doesn't require religion flipping.

Romania requires BYZ to not exist.
 

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Mamluks should work if you religion swap first, since the decision merely requires you to be an Iqta - which in itself can be done by any Muslim state without a unique government type already - and own Cairo. This does have the downside of requiring you to dismantle a rather large state first.