Byzantine Empire was the Roman Empire

[Prugel]

I wonder what would happen if modern day Italians decided to call their country "the Roman Republic", and the ERE was still around.
Or if the WRE and the ERE had split up for good, I'm pretty sure the WRE would have been considered the "original".

The ERE evolved very differently from the classical Roman Republic, and it's highly unlikely that at least some of this wouldn't have been different, if the WRE had remained a part. Still, at the time, the ERE was the closest inheritor.

Apart from this, it's just a label.

 

[Kyriakos]

Labels give you decent CB shields

 

[th3freakie]

Labels give you decent CB shields

Imperial Reconquest CB too, damn sweet.

 

[Chlodio]

I wonder what would happen if modern day Italians decided to call their country "the Roman Republic", and the ERE was still around.
Or if the WRE and the ERE had split up for good, I'm pretty sure the WRE would have been considered the "original".

The ERE evolved very differently from the classical Roman Republic, and it's highly unlikely that at least some of this wouldn't have been different, if the WRE had remained a part. Still, at the time, the ERE was the closest inheritor.

Apart from this, it's just a label.

hat would be as accurate as South Slavs calling themselves Macedonia and ERE's name wouldn't be effected.

WRE and ERE were split up for good, they were considerer equal, but people would have referred west as "Latin Empire" (instead of crusader state) and east as "Greek Empire" (like they already did). Like it already has been agree "Byzantine Empire" was continuous not successor.

 

[Andrelvis]

hat would be as accurate as South Slavs calling themselves Macedonia and ERE's name wouldn't be effected.

No, it is entirely different. Modern Macedonians only happen to live in the same territory as the old kingdom of Macedon. Modern Italians, by contrast, are (amongst others) the cultural heirs of the ancient Romans.

 

[Prugel]

WRE and ERE were split up for good, they were considerer equal, but people would have referred west as "Latin Empire" (instead of crusader state) and east as "Greek Empire" (like they already did). Like it already has been agree "Byzantine Empire" was continuous not successor.

Taking this for granted, the ERE would continue to be the ERE (or someother name), and not become the Roman Empire, just because the WRE disappeared.

 

[Kyriakos]

To be precise, less than 15% of Fyrom includes any realm of the ancient Macedonian state (Philip, Alexander etc). Also it contains no area of importance to that kingdom (eg Pella, Aegai, Amphipolis and so on).

They seem to be mostly Bulgarians given a new identity following the two balkan wars, since then they became part of Serbia.

 

[diegosimeone]

No, it is entirely different. Modern Macedonians only happen to live in the same territory as the old kingdom of Macedon. Modern Italians, by contrast, are (amongst others) the cultural heirs of the ancient Romans.

it's funny because they don't

Taking this for granted, the ERE would continue to be the ERE (or someother name), and not become the Roman Empire, just because the WRE disappeared.

If by Roman Empire you isolate the entity that Ceasar created then probably true, but the ERE and the WRE were both 'Rome'. And the ERE was the only part of 'Rome' that survived. Anything that excludes the term Rome should not be used to define this state.

 

[Kyriakos]

After reading this thread i decided to become a Mounted Cosmonaut of the Byzantine Empire.

 

[Nein]

Beware of the Argentinian Empire





Its new claims:

 

[Enravota]

That's some high tech cavalry there.

 

[Basileios I]

No, it is entirely different. Modern Macedonians only happen to live in the same territory as the old kingdom of Macedon. Modern Italians, by contrast, are (amongst others) the cultural heirs of the ancient Romans.

They are the cultural heirs why precisely? Just because they speak a language descendant from Latin?

 

[Rey]

Beware of the Argentinian Empire

Its new claims:

Utter nonsense! How could you miss las Islas Georgias del Sur y Sandwich del Sur.

 

[Nein]

They aren't in the map hon

 

[Graf Zeppelin]

I welcome my new Argentinian overlords.

 

[Nein]

I can asure you you won't stand them. Much less so now that they are the new Roman Empire

 

[diegosimeone]

I can asure you you won't stand them. Much less so now that they are the new Roman Empire

Remove Gaucho?

 

[Kyriakos]

A bit OT, but:

Who originally came up with the borders of Chile?

 

[Amallric]

God, while creating of the highest mountain chains in the world?

 

[Doukan]

A bit OT, but:

Who originally came up with the borders of Chile?

Either Spanish colonial bureautwats or bastard revolutionaries with no sense of natural borders.