Byz - Rome game- what’s a better idea mid/late game, defensive or innovative?

[Vampiresbane]

It’s roughly 1560. I own the Balkans and Greece and am preparing to complete my Anatolia conquest as well as start my Middle East and Italian invasions. Allied to #1 France and #3 Russia; I’m the 2nd great power as Byzantium. Mamelukes are 4th or 5th.

My plan for my ideas was:
Religious, Offensive, Diplomacy, Administrative, Quality, Innovative, Influence, Economic

I have Religious and Offensive complete and halfway through Diplomacy.

I’m struggling between taking innovative for it’s merc maintenance, tech, and war exhaustion modifiers + the 20% infantry combat bonus policy versus defensive’s army tradition, attrition reduction, morale, reinforce speed, and +1 leader maneuver bonuses.

Any feedback?

 

[makaramus]

both are good for early game
BUT! innovative idea is good if you got quality ideas + as byzantium you can have REAL CHEAP advisors... if you are strongest nation around I say innovative but if there are nations still threating you then defensive
reason:Extra morale is obsolate when you are allready wining wars .

 

[Vampiresbane]

both are good for early game
BUT! innovative idea is good if you got quality ideas + as byzantium you can have REAL CHEAP advisors... if you are strongest nation around I say innovative but if there are nations still threating you then defensive
reason:Extra morale is obsolate when you are allready wining wars .

My only real competition is the Mamlukes. They border me south of Anatolia and all the other major powers have France, myself, and/or Russia as rivals. I basically allied the two strongest empires; it will only be an issue if/when they rival each other. But at that point, I hope to be strong enough to take out France myself. Right now, Russia and I can win 2v1, but if he called in another great power, it'd be a lot tougher.

 

[Cataphract887]

Administrative is weak if your not big blobbing. Innovative has the cheaper advisors and war exhaustion reduction, while Defensive would be more of a pure military boost. Economic isnt a bad choice for a military boost with its Horse Artillery policy alongside its econ benefits

 

[makaramus]

My only real competition is the Mamlukes. They border me south of Anatolia and all the other major powers have France, myself, and/or Russia as rivals. I basically allied the two strongest empires; it will only be an issue if/when they rival each other. But at that point, I hope to be strong enough to take out France myself. Right now, Russia and I can win 2v1, but if he called in another great power, it'd be a lot tougher.

can you tell me your other picks? if you didnt allready pick religius but I belive you did so... tell us

 

[Vetgirig]

Got too many administrative or military monark points ?

Select the one you are not struggling with.

 

[Vampiresbane]

Administrative is weak if your not big blobbing. Innovative has the cheaper advisors and war exhaustion reduction, while Defensive would be more of a pure military boost. Economic isnt a bad choice for a military boost with its Horse Artillery policy alongside its econ benefits

As the title suggests, I'm aiming to remake the Roman Empire. So I may not be WC blobbing, but I'm definitely blobbing. I'm basically asking what the forum community thinks would be a better fit for Med. Sea domination as a growing Byzantine Empire.

can you tell me your other picks? if you didnt allready pick religius but I belive you did so... tell us

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My plan for my ideas was:
Religious, Offensive, Diplomacy, Administrative, Quality, Innovative, Influence, Economic

I have Religious and Offensive complete and halfway through Diplomacy.
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[makaramus]

As the title suggests, I'm aiming to remake the Roman Empire. So I may not be WC blobbing, but I'm definitely blobbing. I'm basically asking what the forum community thinks would be a better fit for Med. Sea domination as a growing Byzantine Empire.

whelp plan and current are not same thing in But if it is innovative because you have quality and you can chrush anyone with their policy when you need it also extreme cheap advisors are good too

YET! Innovative ideas has weird synergies with religius decisions (as example muscovy loses making muscovy a patriach bonus) so not sure if byzantium will have smiler effect