Buying resources

[Nomad93]

So,i've managed to buy Vicky.Awesome game.Ok,now,let's pass to my problem:buying resources.Basically,my problem is the following:

resources are a vital thing to industrialize and get money,right?Right.Well,the problem is simple,when I buy resources(ie machine parts)i go into the market,i select the resource,i select the quantity of resources,i press confirm,an "resource ordered"thingie(it appears more or less this)appears,but still i can't build the factory with the newly bought resource.I mean,it's like i didn't bought the resource.Can someone help me?

 

[gornard]

When you place an order like you did, it doesn't guarantee you'll get them straight away. Rather what it means is that you'll continue to buy them as they become available to you until the maximum set in your order is met. Likewise if you set it to sell, it will stockpile up to the number of units you specify and then sell the rest.

Availability is the problem. Early on machine parts are sought after by everyone, however afaik the UK is the only country that starts with a machine parts factory. So theres a lot of demand for not alot of supply. So who gets first dibs? The producer first of all, but after that it depends on your world ranking. If you are a great power (in the top 8) you are gonna have a greater chance of getting the goods then a lower ranking power.
Later on as more factories are built it'll become easier to get them.

Also some technologies give you free machine parts.

If you have revolutions, you require less machine parts. All you need is enough to build a capitalist and he'll build factories in his state for free.

 

[Nomad93]

Basically,in the best of the cases,i must wait?The fact is that even later i can't get them.Could it be a bug of the 1.03 patch?

 

[gornard]

you have 3 options:
1, Wait. Try and improve your ranking by gaining prestige and/or growing your military.
2, Get the techs that give you free machine parts, and use them to get started.
3, Research the relevant tech (interchangeable parts) and build your own machine parts factory.

I don't think it's a bug, you may sometimes have to wait a long time to get them. I mainly play revolutions, where it's not such a big deal.

For more info check here: http://www.paradoxian.org/vickywiki/index.php/Machine_Parts_101

 

[pizza de oveja]

Read that vicky wiki article, I had the same problem and that article was really usefull. In fact I recomend reading the whole enciclopedia. Its excelent info for the game.

The problem of course is that before you can produce machine parts, if you are not one of the top dogs in prestige(you get preference in the world market) it is much beter to leave the capitalist do the heavy lifting (they dont seem to need machine parts or the other resources to build railways and factories which is unrealistically cool) and only start geting interventionist when you can produce the necesary goods to micromanage your economy.

As a new player however that is pretty hard to do(and goes against what every gamer usually likes which is after all to be the overlord), currently in my glorious campaing with france I have to refrain myself every month from not making an Obamaniac intervention on the economy...they keep building the wrong factories those capitalists dolts!

But I know it is for the best. Much worse to have an slow rate of capi building and having government powers to do a lot of things but not the required materials to do so (the worse of both worlds).

 

[henryjai]

it is about yoru prestige, though industrializing early in game could not be really profitable. Even selling cattles give you more money. The reason you want to industrialize is probably to turn your pops into clerks.

As pizza said, promoting capitalists would work, you spend about 10k bucks for a 10-15k sized capitalist pop, he'll be building a lot of stuffs for you in the long run. But the situation is really country specific. Some countries need that capitalist as they are too poor to construct factories themselves. But if you are playing a small nation with very rich RGOs, probably state capitalism is better for you as you easily got the fund for industrialization and have not much worry about money early on. You could build a few crappy factories that don't cost much machine parts to start. (I think you got some machine parts from industrial techs like mech. production, 5 machine parts could build some good railroads and 2-3 factories)