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I'll let you in on a little secret. You can convert your own provinces, even when they are catholic already. It seems pointless, no? Well the catch is, you can prevent those provinces from ever becoming reformed :D


at least you used to be able to... I don't know if you still can

Hey...is this true? I feel like being in prof. Ebbesens classroom once again..:D
 

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Not to dampen your enthusiasm, LJ, but that should be reported in the bug forum (if it hasn't already).

Great job, MacRaith, a nice start! :)

LJ, it's probably too late for me to say anything, but I would recommend playing your reign out "to the AAR" if you've got no better ideas; in other words, set yourself up with an interesting story.
 

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Originally posted by Sharur
Not to dampen your enthusiasm, LJ, but that should be reported in the bug forum (if it hasn't already).

Great job, MacRaith, a nice start! :)

LJ, it's probably too late for me to say anything, but I would recommend playing your reign out "to the AAR" if you've got no better ideas; in other words, set yourself up with an interesting story.

It was reported, and appearenlty it has be changed.... I just tested it.

I ended up with plenty to do, I have 6 years left with which to accomplish a few more goals, and I will try to tie everything up nicely for the next player. Be wary, you will inherit a very very bad reputation, but since it is on Hard, you shuld be ok. Just make sure we have enough armies at all times :)


I would expect to be down within an hour and the files will be off... at that point i will start writing the AAR and post it... I don't think I am going to do a full fledged AAR with characters and such, because it would take me 2 weeks to get it all up. I am thinking along the lines of a history book type AAR, because that doesn't take nearly as much thought as an epic story.
 

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I look forward to receiving it (though I'm not looking forward to all the horrible, horrible war. ;) My email should be up in the other thread, but in case it's not:

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Philippe comes to Power

The story of the rise of Burgundy defies all odds. Philippe III le Bon, for our purposes, he will be known as Philippe the Good. Philippe rose to power in the autumn of 1419, succeeding his father John the Fearless. The state that Philippe inherited was peaceful, but small and divided. Burgundy owned lands in the Dutch Netherlands, as well as three hereditary provinces in the southeast of France. Philippe’s kingdom totaled only seven provinces, with the tiny Brabant as a vassal.

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Before his life would end, Philippe would create an empire that would surpass all others on the continent. His name would be forever etched in the scripts of European history with the likes of Charlemagne. He would be remembered among the greatest of the Dukes of Burgundy, and he would leave his son Charles I an empire in the making. How did all of this happen? Where do we start…
 

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Goal 1: Connect the Nation

Upon taking control of the nation, Philippe orders his most trusted general, Jean de Pressy to move his Bourgogne Armee to French Comte, in preparation for a strike against the Duchy of Lorraine, to which Philippe had hereditary claims. Before Philippe could mobilize his military, he pressed to reform the outdated tax system within the realm. Over the next six months, he instituted tax collectors in all provinces. With this accomplished, he recruited five thousand infantry in French Comte at de Pressy’s request. Furthermore, the Army of Holland was moved to Zeeland, within striking distance of Luxemburg, the other province to which Philippe had claims. The Army of Flanders was also brought to Zeeland, and merged with the existing Army of Holland. The new force (16,5,0) marched to Burgundy’s vassal Brabant, in preparation for a strike on Luxemburg.

By February, 1419 the plan was set in motion. On February 9, war was declared upon Luxemburg. They had allies in central Europe, but none who posed a threat to Burgundy. The stability of the nation plummeted as a result of good relations and a royal marriage. When Philippe was informed of the close national ties, he simply responded “Good, they may well accept our rule then.” This would become typical of Philippe’s foreign policy, as he rarely heeded the opinion of other nations. It took two full weeks for the Army of Holland to annihilate the 5k members of the Luxemburg army, but on March 9, Luxemburg was besieged.

An interesting development took place in June, when Luxemburg and Lorraine went to war. Lorraine moved 15k to Luxemburg to help the Burgundy-lead siege there. It also served to kill many of their men, weakening them further. On November 9, the province fell and was immediately annexed. There would be little else of consequence to happen during that year, and fall turned to winter, winter turned to spring.

The year 1421 opened with a new domestic budget. Philippe believed that it was necessary to improve the infrastructure of the nation, and he set all but 10% of funds to further that venture. The remaining 10% was devoted to the treasury. This would become Philippe’s default budget, only to be adjusted in extreme emergency. With this done, Philippe continued his expansionistic plans. Lorraine, the Palatinat, and Mainz were in an alliance, and Philippe sough to take advantage of this. “It’s like killing three birds with one stone” he exclaimed to a few trusted nobles. On May 1, the declaration of war was delivered to Lorraine.

The Bourgogne Armee was dispatched to Lorraine, with de Plessy at its head. The Army of Holland was moved from Luxemburg to Pfalz. The Palatinat possessed a large army, but it had already been dispatched to the province of Alsace. On the 20th of May, de Pressy arrived in Lorraine and besieged it. The next day the Palatinat would lay siege to Alsace. The second prong of Burgundy’s assault, the Army of Holland, arrived in Pfalz on June 8. An appropriate siege force was detached, and the remainder of the army was marched across the Rhine to lay siege to Mainz. The rest of the year was spent fighting off skirmishes and reinforcements, and all forces settled in for the winter.

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Pfalz was the first to fall, and did so on February 8, 1422. A diplomat was sent to their ruler, but apparently got lost on the way. Before he reached their capital, the Palatinat captured Alsace, thus preventing peace from being settled on “proper” terms. The siege force in Pfalz moved to Lorraine, and the Palatinate’s army moved to their capital, in an effort to liberate the city. March came, and with it the fall of Lorraine. General de Pressy gathered his men and moved to the enemy force in Pfalz, and Philippe annexed the country. Around the same time, Philippe ordered eleven thousand men raised in French Comte to be used as a siege force in Alsace.

April brought another surprise, a declaration of war from Bavaria. This was most odd because they had no allies and shared no border with Burgundy, but apparently their ruler was bored and didn’t notice such details. The last day of April brought the defeat of the Palatinate’s army in Pfalz. Jean de Pressy moved his men to Alsace to reconquer that province. This victory raised concerns abroad, and it brought an Italian alliance lead by Tuscany into war with Burgundy (*yawn*). In June the Bourgogne Armee arrived in Alsace to face four thousand weakened Palatinat defenders. De Pressy was promptly beaten and send back to French Comte (*expletive*). Two months later the situation was rectified and de Pressy besieged Alsace. The year would close with the Army of Holland capturing Mainz, but Philippe held out suing for peace.

By January, 1423 Philippe had decided not to annex Mainz, but rather sued for 150,000 patards and Mainz knelt before the Duke and became a vassal. The ceremony would become a very familiar one for Philippe the Good. In March a noble dispute rocked the province of Artois, as the Duke of Gloucester married the Countess Hainut, yeah, whatever. The Army of Holland, newly reinforced with (9,3,0) moved to crush the rebels.

The summer would bring better news, as August brought the fall of Alsace came to the capital of Dijon. Philippe sued for peace, and the Palatinat was forced to kneel before Philippe as a vassal. This did not bring all conflicts to a close, as the country was still at war with several European states, but none offered a serious thread. Philippe’s first goal had been with amazing success. He now focused on internal policy, spending the rest of the year improving the infrastructure {level 2}, and sending gifts to Burgundy’s three vassals.

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Philippe was not a peaceful ruler though, and in January of 1424 he took to the field himself. The armies were reconsolidated with de Pressy in charge of the French Comte Army, and Philippe leading the Bourgogne Armee, between the two of them, they controlled almost 70k. By April, offers of white peace were beginning to come around from the other nations who had declared war upon Burgundy, and by summer only Brittany remained. They were an interesting breed, as they continually landed forces of four thousand on the shores of Zeeland, only to be slaughtered by Philippe’s 44k.

By September, Philippe had tired of peace, and he issued a declaration of war to the next logical target, Cologne. It was an added bonus that they were allied with Kleves, who Philippe had no qualms about subjugating, but that’s a story for another chapter. The country had been connected, and the first goal was met.
 

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Alright guys... I can get a few updates out a day... but there is alot to tell and 48 years to cover. I am taking a break from my Brandenburg AAR to work strictly on this, but it is going to take a few days to get done. I am gonna post as I go, but I am gonna ask the_hawk to hold off until I am done to post your story, as you might get done playing before I am done posting.

This should work fine, because that way there will always be new posts. If the next person starts writing before I am even done posting, there should never be any long delays.

I might do another installment tonight, if not I will tomorrow.
 
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(yawn) Is that the best you can do, two annexations and two vassalizations in four years? ;)

Nice start.
 

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With the annexations of Lorraine and Luxemburg, Philippe had successfully connected his country. There were now a myriad of options open to him, but he chose to press his advantage along the Rhine. On September 5 a declaration of war was delivered to Cologne and Kleves. Philippe moved his army of 44k to Kleves, while de Pressy moved the French Comte Army to Cologne. There were relatively few defenders in each province (10k each) and each leader was successful in besieging their respective province by the end of the month.

There was nothing of note in the next six months, as both armies continued to besiege and wait. On the first of April, Philippe captures Kleves. With this done, he marches his army back to Holland, to await further action. 26 days later de Pressy captures Cologne, and he returns to Luxemburg. Both nations offered only paltry sums of money, so peace was delayed until the first of the next year. In the meantime, 16k infantry were raised in Holland and given to Philippe’s army in June. By August the Artisans were becoming unhappy with the ceaseless war. Philippe chose to abolish a tax, moving the nation further towards a serf-free society.

A situation was developing in France by the fall of 1425, as Paris and Champaign were controlled by rebels. A rebel army was besieging Nivernais as well, but Philippe had no interesting in meddling with French affairs. The year changed, and with it peace was signed with Kleves and Cologne. Both were made vassal states of Burgundy, and paid a combined 130,000 patards for peace. With that said, Brittany still refused to sign a peace treaty, and continued to send their little armies against Philippe in the Netherlands. Finally in February, Philippe agreed to pay 25, if for nothing else to reward them for being stupid.

The treasury was overflowing with money, and Philippe spent a hardy sum in March to call up 11k cavalry in Holland. He had to recoup the losses he had suffered in the Kleves campaign. By August, Philippe was ready for war again, and the next target was Friesen and Oldenburg. He moved the Bourgogne Armee of almost 50k {28.19} against 28k in Friesen. It was a route. A detachment was left to besiege the province, and Philippe moved the rest of his army to Oldenburg. He soon routed those forces and laid siege to that province as well. Jean de Pressy was not idle either, as he was busy slaughtering the French rebels who had spilled over to Burgundy.

The siege of Oldenburg presented a unique opportunity for Philippe. He sent the heads of the fallen military leaders to Kleves, Cologne, Palatinate, and Mainz. This served to improve the relations between the vassals and Burgundy, and helped make Philippe infamous. The first days of 1427 brought the fall of Friesen, who sued for peace on the terms of 200,000 patards and vassalship. Similar terms were reached in March when Oldenburg fell to Philippe’s army, and Burgundy was once again at peace. The revenues were spent constructing a Fine Arts Center in the capital of Dijon. The nation was strong, and the economy provided opportunities for such costly ventures. Burgundy’s reputation abroad was now “rather bad”, but this wasn’t a concern to Philippe. In fact, his kind treatement of the conquered nations was formally recognized in April, when Burgundy was celebrated as having a “Great Reputation” (What the ???). Savoy, Helvetia, Siena, Palatinat, Cologne, and Mainz all increased their relations with Philippe and Burgundy.

Philippe now instituted a policy of sending small gifts to his vassals whenever it was convenient, which helped to keep their opinions of the liege high. Still, Philippe tired of peace, and in August of 1427 he ordered de Pressy to return to Zeeland, in preparation for an invasion of Gelre, Munster, and Hessen. They would make fine additions to Philippe’s growing sphere of influence.

In January, 1428 {5,6} were added to de Pressy’s army in Zeeland. By the middle of the year, Philippe was ready for war and declared so on Gelre on June 14. Bourgogne Armee {22,15}moved to Gelre, to face the 33k defenders there. De Pressy moved his force of {18.12} against Munster’s 20k. By July both provinces lay under siege, and de Pressy moved his force on to Hessen, where he was soundly defeated by the Germans. The news was not all bad though, as a new level of trading efficiency had been reached in July. Philippe was content to sit and wait for Munster and Gelre to fall before dealing with Hessen.

January 1429 offered Philippe his first chance to alter the domestic policy of the nation, and he did so by instituting a great stress on the land military. Munster had fallen in the final days of 1428, and was subjugated as a vassal in January, paying 56,000 patards in the process. De Pressy moved to Luxemburg to reinforce his army in preparation for the invasion of Hessen. This proved unnecessary when Gelre fell in April, and Philippe himself moved against Hessen. Jean de Pressy was ordered to return to the capital and await further orders. Gelre paid a sum of 173,000 patards and became a vassal. The money was immediately distributed among Philippe’s other vassals. Most of de Pressy’s forces were given to Philippe, with de Pressy taking on 9k cavalry back to Dijon, where he would be reinforced. With a force of 45k {29,16}. Philippe marched on Hessen in early June. He annihilated the large Hessen Army, while only losing a few thousand of his own. He settled in for a siege that would last until the next year.

In November of 1429, the citizens of Champaign defected to Philippe’s rule. This was followed in the next year by the defection of Nivernais to Burgundy, they did so on August 1. The next day, the last heir of the duchy of Brabant died out, and it was incorporated into the hands of Philippe III the Good, Duke of Burgundy. This was followed 2 days later by the fall and subjugation of Hessen, who paid a whopping 267,000 patards and submitted to Philippe as vassal. Thus capped the greatest 4 day run in the history of Europa Universalis (I had to plug that, what luck?). This closed the initial stage of Philippe’s run for the Rhine.

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11 years played
5 new provinces
8 new vassals

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With luck, and a little work on my part, I shoudl be able to update us up til 1450 or so tonight. We have a few (very few) quiet years ahead of us, and then the REAL fun begins :)

For now, I have to go to a history lecture... I'm not real fond of Native American history, but I guess its part of the diversity of a history major.

I am getting inspired to do my own Burgundy AAR, but I guess that falls after my current list of projects, so it won't happen for a while. I still have to finish 350 years of Brandenburg, write the biography of Prinz Eugen, and the biggest project- a 2 computer networked game of the two great empires, the Byzantines and Papal states... it will be a long summer :)

more to come, I promise:)
 

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::Cues Jingoistic cheering::

Not a bad start. I wonder if there will be any germanic or french provinces left for me to conquer?

Ah well. There's always the land route to India.
 

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Faeelin,

Having played through about half my reign at this point, let me simply say: I wouldn't count on it. ;)
 

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Well done so far! I think I can explain the "great reputation" thing too... Great does not necessarily mean good. Think Alexander the Great, Catherine the Great, and other "greats" throughout history; they were not loved, but were highly respected. :D

We may have to change Philippe's nickname though. "Philippe le Grande", anyone?

BTW, I received the save game files, I have no idea what the ACE extension is. What did you use to zip it? (And could subsequent authors please use WinZip, since zip files are more or less standard?)
 

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Semi Quiet Years

Following Philippe’s subjugation of the independent German states of the Rhine, Burgundy settled back to await an opportunity to expand further. This time period was known as the Semi-Quiet years, and it centered on the constant generosity of Philippe to the eight vassal states of Burgundy. The first five months of 1431 were peaceful and quiet, until the Duke of Baden decided to call Philippe a dirty word. This diplomatic insult gave Philippe a casus belli against Baden, as if he needed it anyway. With no allies, Baden was immediately given the opportunity to die. Philippe took it upon himself to personally attend the “battle” that saw less than 100 members of Burgundy’s army fall, in comparison to 10k members of the Baden force. By late May, the province was besieged.

Nothing more happened for the rest of that year, but the spring of 1432 brought an interesting decision of Philippe. Baden was a vassal of Austria, so it couldn’t be made to bow before him. He briefly entertained thoughts of making them empty their treasury and grant military access to his armies, but decided that they would make a fine addition to the Duke’s land. On March 3, 1432 the province was captured and annexed. This further destroyed Burgundy’s reputation, and it became necessary to further bribe the vassals of Burgundy.

The next five years saw absolutely nothing of interest. France annexed Bourbonais, England annexed Navarre, and Savoy joined our alliance with England. Surely you did not forget we actually had allies? Philippe kept the English happy with gifts, just in case he would ever need them. The alliance was slated to end in 1443, at which time Philippe would create a new. These were peaceful years, the last which Burgundy would see for a while. All was not well though, for in 1437 Burgundy lost the great Jean de Pressy, the nation would morn his loss for a full 365 days.

By 1438, Philippe had vowed to avenge his friends death. Now we must remember that de Pressy lived a long life and died of natural causes, but this did not sway Philippe. He blamed… umm… the Bavarians, and declared war on the in January. It was convenient because they brought their allies into war, which included Wurtemburg, Saxony, Helvetia, and Madgeburg. Philippe immediately moved his army to Wurtemburg, where he promptly defeated the defenders and besieged the province. It is important to be opportunistic, and the Austrians and Hungarians were besieging the Swiss province of Schwytz, Philippe left the care of the siege of Wurtemburg to a close subordinate, and personally overtook the siege of Schwytz in March, 1438. The other Burgundian Army was sent to besiege Bern, and did so in April. Reinforcements were called up in Alsace and French Comte, who would eventually become the Alsace Army of 19k infantry.

July saw the sieges progress nicely, and also the invention of refineries {infra = 3}, which could be used to boost trade tech. This was followed in October by the new level of military efficiency that the army of Burgundy had reached {mil. Tech = 2}. Meanwhile, the Alsace Army was dispatched to Bayern, to subjugate the Bavarians. Three weeks later, the siege of Wurtemburg was successful, and they were subjugated and vassalized, paying 50,000 patards. That force moved with the Alsace Army to Bayern, while the Austria army sat in Ansbach. In December, the Bavarian capital was officially besieged.

January, 1439 brought another opportunity to change the domestic policy of Burgundy, and Philippe again stressed the importance of the nation’s military, increased the stress on LAND. Philippe further aided the nation with his capture of Schwytz in March, and he moved to Bern to oversee the army’s progression there. By August that city too had fallen, and Helvetia became a vassal of Burgundy, while paying 185,000 patards. Philippe took his force to the Bavarian province of Ansbach, which the Austrians had recently abandoned. He reached the province in early October of 1439.

Burgundy’s constant success had isolated much of Europe, and in 1440 an alliance of Aragon, Naples, Papal States, Albania and Genoa all declared war on Philippe’s peaceful duchy. Philippe ignored this, for now, because they had no means of reaching his lands. He did call upon his allies, just in case Savoy wanted to take advantage of its proximity to Genoa. May 8 saw the fall of Ansbach, and Bavaria too became a vassal of Burgundy. The funds from war taxes were used to build a refinery in Alsace, and Philippe returned to Dijon. The merchants were so happy, the formed a monopoly company which gave 100,000 patards to Philippe, who immediately distributed it among the newest vassal states.

By 1441 Philippe was tired of the constant demands for peace from Aragon’s various allies, and offered 150,000 patards for them to leave him alone. They wisely accepted, and this brought Burgundy to peace once more. The one down side to Philippe’s recent expansion was that it served to extend his alliance with England. He wanted to be “closer” to his German vassals, and in 1441 he left the English alliance. He immediately established an alliance with Cologne, Palatinat, and Mainz, and Kleves would join the following year. 1442 would see more gifts to the new allies, and a 17k army raised in Holland to protect the northern provinces. This is where we will leave out story.

Status: 22 years as Duke
Provinces: 13 (started with 7)
Vassals: 12
Treasury: 284,000 Patards
Army: 37,141; 22,903


Sorry, no screenie this time. Just add Baden to us, and add the vassal states of Wurtemburg, Helvetia, and Bavaria.
 

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Just an FYI -- I polished off my portion a little while ago, and will be passing it along as soon as I zip it up. Not quite as eventful as LJ's time, but I think I did ok. ;)
 

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you can probably just write up your part... but it will be a couple days til you can post it... I have to finish my brandenburg game tonight because 1.05 is coming out tomorrow (we think)... and i need to do a clean install and stuff

I shold be done by the end of the week.. i did have 50 years you know :)

you can post this weekend... hopefully.