BUGS(I cant post in the bug forum due to probation)

[Palaiologos]

1. If a country gets peaced out during a war, the option to intervene in the continuing war is still available(once the peace treaty expires), the message pops up that they have intervened, but the action is a dud. Well they shouldnt be able to intervene, so the text is wrong.

2. Vassal fleets dont attach, even if they are "told to" by their overlord.

3. Many times you get a notification about an impending attack due to your spy network. Yet you cant tell your vassals/marches to unmothball their forts.

4. Promising land in war but peacing out the enemy one by one and giving out their land to your allies doesnt count as fullfilling the promise(very annoying)

5. The loss of stability due to the "comet sighted!" event is no longer nullified by employing a natural scientist.


I know its the wrong forum but have no access to the BUGS one. Btw Its more than 6 months I am on probation, how about we call it a day?

 

[grotaclas]

2. do you have any evidence that this was ever different? I have never seen that working, so I assume that this is a feature only for multiplayer.
3. why is that a bug?
4. Promises only apply to the main peace deal. This may be bad game design, but I don't see why that is a bug
5. do you have any evidence that the natural scientist ever did this? I looked at several old versions (1.4.1, 1.8.1, 1.22.2, 1.29.6) and in neither of those versions did a natural scientist remove the stab hit. A natural scientist halves the chance for the event to happen in all the versions that I looked at. And in the newer version a ruler with the scholar trait adds a new event option which gives admin power instead of the stab hit. Maybe you are confusing the events. There is an event The Great Comet which you can get if you have a natural scientist and this event doesn't give a stab hit.

 

[Palaiologos]

2. do you have any evidence that this was ever different? I have never seen that working, so I assume that this is a feature only for multiplayer.
3. why is that a bug?
4. Promises only apply to the main peace deal. This may be bad game design, but I don't see why that is a bug
5. do you have any evidence that the natural scientist ever did this? I looked at several old versions (1.4.1, 1.8.1, 1.22.2, 1.29.6) and in neither of those versions did a natural scientist remove the stab hit. A natural scientist halves the chance for the event to happen in all the versions that I looked at. And in the newer version a ruler with the scholar trait adds a new event option which gives admin power instead of the stab hit. Maybe you are confusing the events. There is an event The Great Comet which you can get if you have a natural scientist and this event doesn't give a stab hit.

2. It was never any different, this is an oversightby the AI, and has been since release, unlike the armies that do attach.

3. Well its not really a bug, but one should be able to raise the readiness of his vassals.

4. Yeah I do know that, it shouldnt be though, especially if secondary members in the war are co belligerents. Call it an oversight.

5 ? Hm, I was pretty sure it was the natural scientist giving the admin points or whatever the bonus was, maybe I am indeed confusing the events with the Great Comet.

 

[Zaddy]

so what you're saying is that half of these aren't bugs

 

[Palaiologos]

so what you're saying is that half of these aren't bugs

Does it make much of a difference? They are not working how they were supposed to. Vassal's armed forces behaviour only applies to land units and not naval, land promised should count for individual peace treaties as well, and the overlord can not alert his vassals to an impending attack

 

[Zaddy]

It does, in fact, matter that bug reports contain bugs

 

[Ruian]

It's some leader trait with the comet sighted event. It could be tech discount trait or the idea cost reduction trait.

 

[Republic of Mercury]

It's some leader trait with the comet sighted event. It could be tech discount trait or the idea cost reduction trait.

It's "Scholar", the tech-cost one. It enables the option "Fascinating!" For some admin points. No relation to the great comet event, enabled by having a natural scientist in a certain year.

 

[Palaiologos]

It does, in fact, matter that bug reports contain bugs

Not really. If something was supposed to work in a specific way, but the programmers omitted, overlooked, certain aspects of it (ordering the armed forces of vassals around f.e) it counts as a bug . There is no "WAD?" forum, is there?

 

[Zaddy]

Not really. If something was supposed to work in a specific way, but the programmers omitted, overlooked, certain aspects of it (ordering the armed forces of vassals around f.e) it counts as a bug . There is no "WAD?" forum, is there?

But half the things here are working as designed. They aren't bugs, you just think they should work differently lol

 

[Palaiologos]

But half the things here are working as designed. They aren't bugs, you just think they should work differently lol

But they are not working as designed. You think the devs wanted to dissallow vassals fleets from attaching only making it applicable for land units? Or that promises for land given to allies only apply for the main peace treaty and not individual ones? They are oversights.

 

[Cancerofthehead]

But they are not working as designed. You think the devs wanted to dissallow vassals fleets from attaching only making it applicable for land units? Or that promises for land given to allies only apply for the main peace treaty and not individual ones? They are oversights.

Considering the number of years those have been like that, I think both of those are intentional. Now, it may not be what the devs want (it may have been a practical matter that they couldn’t feasibly do it otherwise), but they probably chose to implement them that way.

 

[JaxElite]

But they are not working as designed. You think the devs wanted to dissallow vassals fleets from attaching only making it applicable for land units? Or that promises for land given to allies only apply for the main peace treaty and not individual ones? They are oversights.

At least the second is NOT an oversight. I would be fuming if i randomly got a ton of AE for getting land from a non cobelligerent (bonus points if in HRE)

 

[Cancerofthehead]

At least the second is NOT an oversight. I would be fuming if i randomly got a ton of AE for getting land from a non cobelligerent (bonus points if in HRE)

That does happen, though. In my Siena game, France got me attacked by a coalition because of this and then declined the call. I learned not to keep occupations of any provinces I didn’t want immediately and could core.

I suspect it is more not wanting to factor this stuff over several peace deals.

That said, it can be used to your benefit, if you declare on an ally of ther person you want land from you can take that land in a separate peace and then just not take anything in the main deal.

 

[eoncommander]

There is a *suggestions* forum. Maybe you could go there with your non-bug issues.

 

[Palaiologos]

At least the second is NOT an oversight. I would be fuming if i randomly got a ton of AE for getting land from a non cobelligerent (bonus points if in HRE)

In the latest update the AI actually shows you which lands they want. You cant make them a coalition target against their will. Still it only shows you in the main peace treaty menu, not individual ones.