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Lmao:

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From Frosty1, I'm fairly certain that the English sigil does not look like that.
 

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Looks like after updating to Frosty1 traits got out off control. Characters get double and contradicting themselves traits at the same time, like a novice fighter and formidable fighter, novice diplomat and master diplomat.
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also, does it make sense to anyone?

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and again how this guy has got this trait??? I know he's lunatic and depressed but it doesn't make him a follower of the religion out of diplomatic range and when there's no another single Bon follower in the whole realm.

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I might be wrong with this one, but thought the trait is associated with pagan, reformed or not, religions. She's been baptised by a pope, hadn't killed anyone, no pagan religion has reformed, on the contrary, pagan tribes convert one after another to Christianity (as history goes). So what kind of cruel gods she worships???

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And last but not least, the gladiator trait popped up like mushrooms after rain. WTF??? what gladiator, what arena, isn't it off with the time a bit??? 16y old tutored by a highly-skilled steward (21) gets a gladiator trait without even having a novice fighter one. In a relatively small realm, I've got 24 gladiator traits, often not accompanied with any other martial skills.

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[HIP Release 2019-12-20 (Frosty1)]
EMF: Extended Mechanics & Flavor (v11.0 - 2019-12-20)
Arumba and Internal Tab Shortcuts (2019-05-18)
SWMH (v3.4 - 2019-12-20)
ARKO Armoiries (2019-12-18)
LTM (C - 2019-12-02)

also:
HIP - Expanded Trade
Walter's HIP mod
The Great Trade League
 
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Please guys, if you want to be helpful and us being able to help and/or fix bugs, here is a very important reminder from 1st post.

  • Please include the contents of the "version.txt" file in your HIP folder when making a bug report.
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  • Screenshots are appreciated where feasible.
 

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edit:
[HIP Release 2019-12-20 (Frosty1)]
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Walter's HIP mod
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Arko can't reproduce the bug with HIP modules alone, so the bug lies with one of your submods.

We don't fix bugs for submod creators, so you need to get one of the submod creators to do it for you
 

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Arko can't reproduce the bug with HIP modules alone, so the bug lies with one of your submods.

We don't fix bugs for submod creators, so you need to get one of the submod creators to do it for you


Obviously you don't, nobody should expect this. I've just noticed the issue when I added the Frosty1 update, the rest of the set worked fine before that.
For the record, when I tried a fresh game with a couple of bookmarks, all mods as listed were on, I didn't see any issues with traits. Might be an issue with game saves then.
Is the gladiator trait a part of HIP or not? For a change, I didn't manage to see a single one of it while testing those fresh starts.
Thanks for looking into it.
 

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I'm having trouble installing HIP Frosty1 onto my laptop. Giving some sort of 'access is denied' error despite me removing all traces of the earlier version & running the HIP.exe file as an administrator (Refer attached image for details).

I'm hoping this is an easy fix? Thanks

Is some other process on the computer using that folder or something in it? Like an image editor open on a flag file in there? Anything like that? Kill those processes first before the HIP installer tries to delete its old mod and create a new one. If it's none of those, it's definitely antivirus. Try disabling on-demand scan type of stuff and running it then.

Looks like after updating to Frosty1 traits got out off control. Characters get double and contradicting themselves traits at the same time, like a novice fighter and formidable fighter, novice diplomat and master diplomat. View attachment 535024 View attachment 535026 View attachment 535027

also, does it make sense to anyone?

View attachment 535028

and again how this guy has got this trait??? I know he's lunatic and depressed but it doesn't make him a follower of the religion out of diplomatic range and when there's no another single Bon follower in the whole realm.

View attachment 535029

I might be wrong with this one, but thought the trait is associated with pagan, reformed or not, religions. She's been baptised by a pope, hadn't killed anyone, no pagan religion has reformed, on the contrary, pagan tribes convert one after another to Christianity (as history goes). So what kind of cruel gods she worships???

View attachment 535030

And last but not least, the gladiator trait popped up like mushrooms after rain. WTF??? what gladiator, what arena, isn't it off with the time a bit??? 16y old tutored by a highly-skilled steward (21) gets a gladiator trait without even having a novice fighter one. In a relatively small realm, I've got 24 gladiator traits, often not accompanied with any other martial skills.

edit:
[HIP Release 2019-12-20 (Frosty1)]
EMF: Extended Mechanics & Flavor (v11.0 - 2019-12-20)
Arumba and Internal Tab Shortcuts (2019-05-18)
SWMH (v3.4 - 2019-12-20)
ARKO Armoiries (2019-12-18)
LTM (C - 2019-12-02)

also:
HIP - Expanded Trade
Walter's HIP mod
The Great Trade League

This sort of trait issue is due to loading an incompatible savegame with Frosty1. That likely means incompatible due to submods, but it could also mean that you didn't get the memo of Frosty1 not being compatible with saves from any past HIP releases.
 

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Looks like after updating to Frosty1 traits got out off control. Characters get double and contradicting themselves traits at the same time, like a novice fighter and formidable fighter, novice diplomat and master diplomat. View attachment 535024 View attachment 535026 View attachment 535027

also, does it make sense to anyone?

View attachment 535028

and again how this guy has got this trait??? I know he's lunatic and depressed but it doesn't make him a follower of the religion out of diplomatic range and when there's no another single Bon follower in the whole realm.

View attachment 535029

I might be wrong with this one, but thought the trait is associated with pagan, reformed or not, religions. She's been baptised by a pope, hadn't killed anyone, no pagan religion has reformed, on the contrary, pagan tribes convert one after another to Christianity (as history goes). So what kind of cruel gods she worships???

View attachment 535030

And last but not least, the gladiator trait popped up like mushrooms after rain. WTF??? what gladiator, what arena, isn't it off with the time a bit??? 16y old tutored by a highly-skilled steward (21) gets a gladiator trait without even having a novice fighter one. In a relatively small realm, I've got 24 gladiator traits, often not accompanied with any other martial skills.

edit:
[HIP Release 2019-12-20 (Frosty1)]
EMF: Extended Mechanics & Flavor (v11.0 - 2019-12-20)
Arumba and Internal Tab Shortcuts (2019-05-18)
SWMH (v3.4 - 2019-12-20)
ARKO Armoiries (2019-12-18)
LTM (C - 2019-12-02)

also:
HIP - Expanded Trade
Walter's HIP mod
The Great Trade League

Yes I had it with scarred. My character was horrifically scarred and then in battle he got scarred again and he turned to normal scarred, so he got scarred but actually got lower degree of scars :D Maybe sword healed him? :D
 

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Yes I had it with scarred. My character was horrifically scarred and then in battle he got scarred again and he turned to normal scarred, so he got scarred but actually got lower degree of scars :D Maybe sword healed him? :D
Again, Frosty1 is not save-compatible with past HIP releases or submods of which I know. Trait shifting in this way is totally indicative of save-compatibility problems.
 

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Are barons and mosque-owners meant to remain their original religion even after religious subjugation? Don't think it's intended cause it seems to only happen with barons who were in hiding or imprisoned and with pretty much all mosque owners. I don't know if this has been reported but it's being going on for a while and i haven't been able to find any info about it.

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Notice a strange bug, to my knowledge only affecting England but possibly affecting other titles, where during a revolt the rebels and the ruler seem to "swap" vassal levies, for lack of a better term. For example, in this revolt the rebels can only muster 3.5k troops despite having a max of 13k, while the king has 12k levies mustered while his max is only 12.7k. I have not noticed this problem in other revolts in, for instance, the HRE.
 

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Bishops panel instead of decadence panel playing with a Ismail muslim
 

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Bishops panel instead of decadence panel playing with a Ismail muslim
EMF has its own decadence system, and in patch 3.0, PDS coded things such that religions that didn't literally use _their_ decadence mechanic would get the generic bishop panel. This was unfortunate but not a reason to go back to the horrors of vanilla decadence. Look at your dynasty in your realm (dynasty members not in your realm don't count toward your decadence with our system) in Find Character and search 'decadent' for easy access to people that may need a harsh straightening-up.
 

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Tried to install the new version of HIP and this happend. How can I fix this?
Looks like you may have had a preexisting "Historical Immersion Project" folder or some subfolder or file in it open while you were trying to install, and Windows won't delete files that are currently in use. It could be a few other things too. Be sure to try disabling your on-demand scan in your antivirus software if nothing else works, but my advice is to just try again & if that fails, try deleting the "Historical Immersion Project" folder yourself before running the installer.
 

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[HIP Release 2019-12-20 (Frosty1)]
EMF: Extended Mechanics & Flavor (v11.0 - 2019-12-20)
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I came across these two duchies, Duchy of Trakai and Duchy of Samogitia, which have special title creation condition, if it WAD then some info in the tooltip would be applauded. Other duchies of Lithuania don't have it so I wonder what so special about these 2.
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Also, how anyone can be robbed of 75g off his treasury when holds only 50g in it???
Is this 'cos I left supernatural events on in game settings? Rubbish.

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[HIP Release 2019-12-20 (Frosty1)]
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Arumba and Internal Tab Shortcuts (2019-05-18)
SWMH (v3.4 - 2019-12-20)
ARKO Armoiries (2019-12-18)
LTM (C - 2019-12-02)

also:
HIP - Expanded Trade
Walter's HIP mod
Vasikle's Patrum Scuta for HIP

I came across these two duchies, Duchy of Trakai and Duchy of Samogitia, which have special title creation condition, if it WAD then some info in the tooltip would be applauded. Other duchies of Lithuania don't have it so I wonder what so special about these 2.View attachment 538001

Also, how anyone can be robbed of 75g off his treasury when holds only 50g in it???
Is this 'cos I left supernatural events on in game settings? Rubbish.

View attachment 538002
Not bugs.
 

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Hey, so the HIP launcher says that I'm missing African Portraits but I have it purchased and running (as far as I know.... Got it from the Paradox shop and added on steam. Restarted steam). As such this blocks the HIP launcher from installing CPRplus. Any idea what the issue is?