Bug report: Mac version: vanilla 1.092 (ICBN) -- game crashes when patrician dies

[sss4r]

Assassinated all males of a Venetian family, and when the patrician dies without an heir, CTD. Every time. No matter how he dies. Reproduced at least 5 times.

 

[sss4r]

Update: The patrician died after creating another heir, and the game crashes when I assassinate that heir. It seems to crash when the last remaining member of a house dies.

 

[balmung60]

I have the same problem in Linux and it's really annoying.

I also distinctly remember NOT having this problem in 1.091.

 

[PAnZuRiEL]

I experienced this too, but it's inconsistent. I've never had a CTD from any natural extinction of a house, only by murdering the last patrician via plots or assassination.

 

[balmung60]

I suppose that this means that the next time I want to exterminate a patrician family for some petty misdeed against me, I'll have to console the last member's age to 100+ to avoid a crash while ensuring my goal.

 

[sss4r]

Thanks for the validation. This has a significant impact on Republic DLC given one aspect is feuding families--considering one way to deal with that is to annihilate them. Can't play a Republic again until this gets fixed.

 

[anbc]

Thanks guys, you saved me a lot of trouble, and I'm not even playing a republic. Maybe this will help others too.

Some ~30 years into my game random crashes started to occur every other months, saving shortly before a crash did not always help, but surely sometimes. Crashes occured mostly on 21st of specific months (especially July), followed (by a wide margin) by the 28th. So probably something event system related. Thanks to you guys I took a shot in the dark and searched for republican great houses. Sure enough, the game produced a new republic somewhere along its way, governed by some lesser mayor at the ripe age of 77 without family. Using console, I killed every respective doge of that republic until finally someone with family was elected. After this procedure the game is running smoothly again, no crash for ~20 years already.

TL;DR: When republican bachelors are crashing your war party, kill them.

 

[sss4r]

Thanks for the tip. I try to stay away from the console, but to do it your way I would get the char id of the last-remaining male in the line and use the kill command--that's what fixes it?

 

[anbc]

Thanks for the tip. I try to stay away from the console, but to do it your way I would get the char id of the last-remaining male in the line and use the kill command--that's what fixes it?

That's what fixed it for me, yes, but since I wanted to be sure I did it multiple times until finally some established patrician with family took over that republic.

 

[LarryLeica]

Just adding my 2p here. This is making most games beyond 1100 unplayable for me right now, longest I've managed without the constant CTDs is to about 1220. Extremely frustrating. Having to hunt down patrician families to check their lines constantly spoils all enjoyment, and in any case is really only a temporary fix until the next line.

Here's a generic crash report, each one is very similar:

Key entries seem to be the following:

0   ck2                           	0x000db1a2 CCharacter::PassOnHoldings(CCharacter*, bool, CID&, CList<CCharacter*>*, bool) + 15048
1   ck2                           	0x000a5eda CCharacter::OnDeath(bool, bool, ECauseOfDeath, unsigned int) + 3828
2   ck2                           	0x003b7496 CCurrentGameState::HandleCharactersDeadByEvent() + 120

Spoiler

Process:         ck2 [11746]
Path:            /Volumes/VOLUME/*/CrusaderKings2.app/Contents/game/ck2.app/Contents/MacOs/ck2
Identifier:      ck2
Version:         ???
Code Type:       X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  ??? [1]
User ID:         501

Date/Time:       2013-04-19 12:09:16.115 +0100
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.8.3 (12D78)
Report Version:  10

Interval Since Last Report:          2494 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:           1
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   1
Anonymous UUID:                      63080841-0566-59DA-0BE6-10041C2FDE71

Crashed Thread:  1  Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager

Exception Type:  EXC_CRASH (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000

Thread 0:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   ck2                           	0x000db1a2 CCharacter::PassOnHoldings(CCharacter*, bool, CID&, CList<CCharacter*>*, bool) + 15048
1   ck2                           	0x000a5eda CCharacter::OnDeath(bool, bool, ECauseOfDeath, unsigned int) + 3828
2   ck2                           	0x003b7496 CCurrentGameState::HandleCharactersDeadByEvent() + 120
3   ck2                           	0x001972ce CActivePlot::Execute() + 60
4   ck2                           	0x000985f5 CCharacter::ProcessPlot(bool) + 1709
5   ck2                           	0x0009faab CCharacter::DailyUpdateSerial() + 5591
6   ck2                           	0x003bcb9c CGameState::DailyUpdate() + 816
7   ck2                           	0x003bc71e CGameState::HandleDailyTick(CArray<int> const&) + 4488
8   ck2                           	0x00567d04 CDailyTickCommand::Execute() + 38
9   ck2                           	0x00715dc8 CSession::Update() + 762
10  ck2                           	0x001a7547 CCKApplication::Update() + 47
11  ck2                           	0x0030bc39 CInGameIdler::Idle(bool) + 605
12  ck2                           	0x006abf2c CApplication::UpdateOneFrame(bool) + 418
13  ck2                           	0x006ac00a CApplication::Run() + 46
14  ck2                           	0x004160fb main + 15309
15  ck2                           	0x00006e35 start + 53

Thread 1 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x966a89ae kevent + 10
1   libdispatch.dylib             	0x98712c71 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 993
2   libdispatch.dylib             	0x987127a9 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 53

Thread 2:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x966a580e semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e86c tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 460
2   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e691 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 17

Thread 3:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x966a580e semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e86c tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 460
2   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e691 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 17

Thread 4:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x966a580e semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e86c tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 460
2   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e691 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 17

Thread 5:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x966a580e semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e86c tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 460
2   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e691 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 17

Thread 6:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x966a580e semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e86c tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 460
2   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e691 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 17

Thread 7:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x966a580e semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e86c tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 460
2   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e691 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 17

Thread 8:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x966a580e semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e86c tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::run() + 460
2   libtbb.dylib                  	0x0167e691 tbb::internal::rml::private_worker::thread_routine(void*) + 17

Thread 9:: OGG_BufferNextBuffer
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x966a58e6 mach_wait_until + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x985b9c10 nanosleep + 375
2   ck2                           	0x0084b804 SDL_Delay + 100
3   ck2                           	0x008e737e OGG_BufferNextBuffer + 76
4   ck2                           	0x0084aa4f SDL_RunThread + 111
5   ck2                           	0x0084a397 RunThread + 23
6   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x985285b7 _pthread_start + 344
7   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x98512d4e thread_start + 34

Thread 10:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x966a80ee __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x9852b0ac _pthread_workq_return + 45
2   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x9852ae79 _pthread_wqthread + 448
3   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x98512d2a start_wqthread + 30

Thread 11:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x966a80ee __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x9852b0ac _pthread_workq_return + 45
2   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x9852ae79 _pthread_wqthread + 448
3   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x98512d2a start_wqthread + 30

Thread 1 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
  eax: 0x00000004  ebx: 0xb0080700  ecx: 0xb00805ac  edx: 0x966a89ae
  edi: 0x00000000  esi: 0x987128a1  ebp: 0xb0080718  esp: 0xb00805ac
   ss: 0x00000023  efl: 0x00000247  eip: 0x966a89ae   cs: 0x0000000b
   ds: 0x00000023   es: 0x00000023   fs: 0x00000023   gs: 0x0000000f
  cr2: 0x123d3fcc
Logical CPU: 0

 

[Dracko81]

Yes this has been traced to someone with a retinue dieing without an heir and confirmed by someone from Paradox QA.

 

[Jagsman32]

One of the Patricians is female in my Republic game. When she dies, the game crashes. I imagine if I kill her as well, the game will crash...

Should I just spawn her a bunch of male heirs?

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

Sure, as long as there's an heir,......... or this:

use "charinfo 1" in the terminal to find out his character id number. then use "play <char id>" to play as him, disband his retinue. switch back using your character id then use "kill <char id>" on him.

you could use the get your wife pregnant cheat on him but if your ctd is consistant within 2 years hes probably 80 or something, and youd have to kill his wife, make him marry someone new and hope he doesnt die in 9 months. and i assume the heir must be male in patrician families.

 

[Malibu Stacey]

use "charinfo 1" in the terminal to find out his character id number. then use "play <char id>" to play as him, disband his retinue. switch back using your character id then use "kill <char id>" on him.

you could use the get your wife pregnant cheat on him but if your ctd is consistant within 2 years hes probably 80 or something, and youd have to kill his wife, make him marry someone new and hope he doesnt die in 9 months. and i assume the heir must be male in patrician families.

You need the Republic DLC to switch to a Republic otherwise you get Game Over.

An update would be a good idea right about now Paradox.

 

[unmerged(320188)]

I have random crashes too on PC.

Can hardly play the game until the next random crash.

I asked for a patch seems it made the game worse.

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

Playing on PC in windowed mode seems to make it stable, havent played into 14th century yet though. Will see. Don't know if this is relevant for Mac.
Also no idea why.

 

[Malibu Stacey]

Playing on PC in windowed mode seems to make it stable, havent played into 14th century yet though. Will see. Don't know if this is relevant for Mac.
Also no idea why.

No it doesn't. The only thing which makes it stable is disabling retinues for Patricians. Either you mod the game to do this by setting their retinue cap to something extremely negative or you play without Legacy of Rome enabled.

Try to refrain from posting incorrect information in future, it just causes people more problems.

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

No it doesn't. The only thing which makes it stable is disabling retinues for Patricians. Either you mod the game to do this by setting their retinue cap to something extremely negative or you play without Legacy of Rome enabled.

Try to refrain from posting incorrect information in future, it just causes people more problems.

How is this incorrect information ? It may be, but its my experience and i think i made this clear, just like i said i played in windowed mode on PC and don't know if this is relevant for Mac.
Geez



PS: I generaly refrain from posting, when i think it makes no sense, but this time i thought it might be helpful..or not.

 

[LarryLeica]

How is this incorrect information ? It may be, but its my experience and i think i made this clear, just like i said i played in windowed mode on PC and don't know if this is relevant for Mac.
Geez

Playing in window mode may relieve some other CTD causes, but it won't do anything about the patrician bug unfortunately.

I always play window mode on mac anyway as I am often 'working' and fullscreen isn't practical on a multi-monitor setup. Still crashes in the same way.

 

[sss4r]

Paradox, has this critical bug been fixed? I haven't seen any mention of a fix in the latest change logs. Our Republic DLC is broken. Please fix. Thanks.