BUG REPORT: Impossible surrender to rebels

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Not a tech support issue so moved to main forum. If the community agrees it's likely to be a bug, post in Bug Reports please.
 

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I can't access that screenshot, so I'll be going off what you mentioned in your post.

If I remember correctly, this tends to occur when Nationalist/Patriot rebels cross the border from a neighbouring country into yours. Since they aren't "technically" your rebels, they don't appear in the rebels tab and so can't be negotiated with.

Does that sound like what happened in your game?
 

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It says "norman nationalists, brittany"(he is brittany) and he has all the norman provinces so I can't imagine where else they would have come from. There's also a good forty thousand of them from two provinces in 1525. <_<
 

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Are Normans considered cosmopolitans, in EU IV? I think yes. In that case, it would make sense if a "norman" uprising would want to return to the most powerful "cosmopolitan" country, which is France. I wouldn't say however why it isn't specified, or why they are not simply "cosmopolitan patriots"? (doesn't it sound kind of like an oxymoron?)
 

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From the patch notes:
- There is no longer nationalist or patriot rebels for cultures without a primary tag

Norman, like all French cultures except Cosmopolitaine, has no primary tag. Most likely the bug is just cosmetic and accepting the demands of Cosmpolitaine Rebels will cause the occupied provinces to defect and the rebellion to end.
 

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the rebels didn't entered my country (britanny) from abroad, they spawned in Caux and Normandie as I own both.

I have also some unrest that can generate cosmopolitane rebels as I own Maine and Anjou. If I accept the cosmopolitane demand both of them will defect to France (so the pop up window says).
I don't think is a cosmetic bug.

for those who couldn't see the screenshot here it is:
L2JIjam.jpg
 

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From the way I understand... It seems like it is a bug, which I have seen some information on to due with russia, and novgorod nationalist (who muscovy conquers, and then, for some reason, they rebel from muscovy, but are allied to muscovy, the powerful russian nation)

Now as to the rest, I don't know... That is the limit of My experience and knowledge on this. Have you tried playing with the 1.8.1 hotfix yet? :)
 

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I have also some unrest that can generate cosmopolitane rebels as I own Maine and Anjou. If I accept the cosmopolitane demand both of them will defect to France (so the pop up window says).
I don't think is a cosmetic bug.

What you are describing is exactly what I said. You have Cosmopolitaine rebels, but the rebel armies have been mislabeled "Norman nationalists". This is why it is cosmetic, because the only bug is that the name is wrong on the armies.

Well it should be an option to cede the provinces to Normandy, ei Normandy becomes a free nation with 40K soldiers.

This no longer happens as of 1.8 because cultures without a primary tag can not generate nationalist rebels and Norman has no primary tag.
 

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What you are describing is exactly what I said. You have Cosmopolitaine rebels, but the rebel armies have been mislabeled "Norman nationalists". This is why it is cosmetic, because the only bug is that the name is wrong on the armies.



This no longer happens as of 1.8 because cultures without a primary tag can not generate nationalist rebels and Norman has no primary tag.


Feels like something went wrong here... :/