Bug or WAD? Dominion offered alliance with 3rd party country

[hansmaa]

I've released Norway from Sweden as a dominion.
Now, as far as I've understood how a dominion works, it's a basically a common foreign-policy and a common king/queen. Otherwise the countries are independant of each other.

Now, my problem, playtesting Norway is that I'm bombarded with invitations to alliances. This seems to me to be a bug if I'm right about a dominion having a common foreign policy as the "ruling" country.

As it is, a dominion can be invited to (and accept) a new alliance with other countries, which might later turn on the "ruling" country, thus leaving the dominion in an alliance with the same country as it now is in a war against.

In other words, one part of your alliance is at war with another part of your alliance, and as a dominion you should never be able to end up in such a situation.

 

[Derek Pullem]

I've released Norway from Sweden as a dominion.
Now, as far as I've understood how a dominion works, it's a basically a common foreign-policy and a common king/queen. Otherwise the countries are independant of each other.

Now, my problem, playtesting Norway is that I'm bombarded with invitations to alliances. This seems to me to be a bug if I'm right about a dominion having a common foreign policy as the "ruling" country.

As it is, a dominion can be invited to (and accept) a new alliance with other countries, which might later turn on the "ruling" country, thus leaving the dominion in an alliance with the same country as it now is in a war against.

In other words, one part of your alliance is at war with another part of your alliance, and as a dominion you should never be able to end up in such a situation.

I think this is a concession to those players who want to play as a dominion. As an AI nation they do not ally with anyone else. As a player I believe you can break the alliance that comes with a dominion / satellite and break the satellite status by declaring war on your master. Its a little bit like a player Papal States being allowed to conduct royal marriages in EU2

 

[hansmaa]

Thanks for such a quick reply The difference between PAP in EU2 & dominions in Vicky, is to me, that the marriages in EU2 also symbolises excellent relationship on levels lower than the king (reason: What king is able to beget 2-6 daughters a year???? :rofl: )

However, should we not differ between

break the satellite status by declaring war on your master

and being offered to participate in other alliances than your master?

I feel that as long as a country is a dominion, some of the diplomatical options should be greyed out; to wit all those that involves military options, to both the dominion as well as other countries possible actions with the dominion. Only the "master" should be offered them, and the masters choice should affect the dominion.

As it is, a dominion is unable to declare war on anyone but it's "master". However, having another country/alliance doing it for you is kind of cheating, as the dominion no longer is ceding (? right word??) from the alliance/satellite status, but merely honouring an alliance-call,while breaking another (the one with it's master) ofcourse.

Thus, it seems to me that things can get messy unless the diplomatic rules for dominions are tweaked.
As it is now, Australia, Canada & NZ can be invited by Germany into an alliance. When WWI erupts, these dominions might end up on the German side.....

 

[hansmaa]

Hi Derek.

Have you had any news regarding this question?

 

[Derek Pullem]

Hi Derek.

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