Bug: Iron Man game turned into regular game?

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Hello,

I started an Austria game in Iron Man and saved yesterday evening around 1522.

Today I came back: last game saved on Cloud was in 1471! However, the remaining years were saved on my local drive.

Did it already happen to you? Does the fact my game is no longer saved on cloud mean I am no longer in Iron Man (hence no achievements?).
 
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I've never had a game move from the cloud to my local drive, but I have had a game that started as Ironman and then mysteriously wasn't the next day. It's very frustrating!

How is this bug still a thing?!
 
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We're aware of the issue but have no idea of why due to lack of repro cases. The major changes to Ironman coming in 1.14 should prevent it from happening though.
 
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Can I ask why do you prefer saving at cloud than on hard drive? It seems that cloud saves bring only problems ;).
 
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Can I ask why do you prefer saving at cloud than on hard drive? It seems that cloud saves bring only problems ;).

I guess for two reasons. First, my save file is available wherever I am instead of being stuck on a single computer and I don't have to worry about a broken hard drive. Second, it's the default, and I rarely remember to change it.
 
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We're aware of the issue but have no idea of why due to lack of repro cases. The major changes to Ironman coming in 1.14 should prevent it from happening though.

Thanks Wiz for your reply! I will have fun anyway with my three-unions Austria, even if keeping achievements + Iron Man would have been appreciated ;)
 
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Guys, the thing that causes this is clicking the single player button before the version finishes calculating the checksum. There are two indicators on the main game screen that show this. First, in the bottom left hand corner next to options (or credits, or whatever button is in the bottom left-hand corner of the menu), there's a small black box that normally shows the checksum of whatever version you are playing. When the calculation hasn't finished yet, it'll instead say "calculating version..." or something like that. Second, and more obviously, the multiplayer button (right next to the single player button for those who don't know for some reason), will be grayed out until the version finishes calculating. If you hover over the button, it'll say "Please wait for the version to finish calculating before playing multiplayer" (or something like that). The reason why this is important is that the game verifies a save is ironman by making sure the checksum hasn't been altered; if the checksum hasn't been properly calculated yet, the game will interpret it as having been altered, thus any ironman game you load in this state will be de-ironmanned.

So basically, the problem is that you lot are a whole bunch of impatient buggers. So if you find yourself having the irresistible urge to click the button as soon as it pops up cause you left off in a great spot and that achievo is soooo close AND ERMAHGERD IMMA REMOVE BAG- slow down, calm yourself, take a few deep breaths, and I don't know, bob your head to the main screen music? Pick your nose? Frankly, I don't care, just wait for the version to calculate.

Or, you know, Paradox could make the main screen wait to pop up until after the checksum has been calculated. But that takes effort! :eek:
 
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AHA! That's what happened to my Sons of Carthage campaign! I was seriously kicking myself as to how I could possibly have failed to click that box, especially since I vividly remembered seeing the monthly autosave...

Guys, the thing that causes this is clicking the single player button before the version finishes calculating the checksum. There are two indicators on the main game screen that show this. First, in the bottom left hand corner next to options (or credits, or whatever button is in the bottom left-hand corner of the menu), there's a small black box that normally shows the checksum of whatever version you are playing. When the calculation hasn't finished yet, it'll instead say "calculating version..." or something like that. Second, and more obviously, the multiplayer button (right next to the single player button for those who don't know for some reason), will be grayed out until the version finishes calculating. If you hover over the button, it'll say "Please wait for the version to finish calculating before playing multiplayer" (or something like that). The reason why this is important is that the game verifies a save is ironman by making sure the checksum hasn't been altered; if the checksum hasn't been properly calculated yet, the game will interpret it as having been altered, thus any ironman game you load in this state will be de-ironmanned.

So basically, the problem is that you lot are a whole bunch of impatient buggers. So if you find yourself having the irresistible urge to click the button as soon as it pops up cause you left off in a great spot and that achievo is soooo close AND ERMAHGERD IMMA REMOVE BAG- slow down, calm yourself, take a few deep breaths, and I don't know, bob your head to the main screen music? Pick your nose? Frankly, I don't care, just wait for the version to calculate.

Or, you know, Paradox could make the main screen wait to pop up until after the checksum has been calculated. But that takes effort! :eek:

That is not what is happening here. In your example, you wouldn't be able to load a cloud-saved ironman game at all, and even then, it wouldn't explain a save breaking mid-game.
 

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This happens to me, The game breaks and becomes a local game, I click the save game button and it asks what i'd want to save the file as rather than just saving it to ironman mode automatically.
 

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Happened to my most recent game. Saxony, just turned Revolutionary for the first time, in position to take the last of the chinaware provinces and took a break. Came back to find it switched to local saves, and my cloud save (I switch computers) had switched off Ironman.

I'm kind of fussed about it, but on the other hand this time Prussia won't escape from being my march by getting themselves into a personal union with Brandenburg, my other march.
 

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I had the same problem multiple times, and it's not only due to lack of patience. If you hover mouse button over start and green pop-up on achievements 'can be earned in this session' or similar appears, games stay Ironman more or less. But yesterday I lost Ironman status on my Novgorod game anyway although I waited prior to pressing start button.

Normally, I have few cloud saves but decided to make one local Ironman as Brunei. And it gives tons of problems on my laptop. Frankly, memory issues is something I don't recall happening in years, and the game stopped couple of times due to this. And after this happened once again, my local save was gone. Simply gone. So, back to saving on cloud and starting new campaigns in every patch.
 

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We're aware of the issue but have no idea of why due to lack of repro cases. The major changes to Ironman coming in 1.14 should prevent it from happening though.

Had this happen too, but only once. After that I´, careful not to rush my loading but have never seen the checksum calculating. However I did crash the game a couple of times, due to events being rather unpleasant to a fragile start, destroying any chance of succes. Could be an issue with it, not knowing if any other does the same thing to circumvent bad events or decisions.
 

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We're aware of the issue but have no idea of why due to lack of repro cases. The major changes to Ironman coming in 1.14 should prevent it from happening though.

Did some more testing, since I was able to lose a couple of ironman games (close to achievements, sigh)... Since I´m no expert on this, this is only estimates in an effort to help you guys. Seems like the times I´ve lost an ironman game, is due to the "calculating version" where you hit load before this is done. What I´ve seen (and haven´t finished testing, since it was an achievement run again) is that when you hit "load game" before "calculating version" is done, the "ironman mode" is ticked off and loading your game when this is done, reverts the game into a regular.

By going back to the main screen, hit "load game" again and ticking "ironman mode" on should resolve it IF you haven´t loaded the game fully. However this I didn´t try, since I was scared of losing the game so I quit the game and loaded it back up from start.

What my testing has shown so far, is that having resource demanding background programs running while loading EU4 makes "calculating version" happen more frequently, this has never happened to me before but seeing as this has been the difference when I have lost my ironman saves, this could be an issue and a way for you guys to either recreate the circumstances for your own testing or find a solution.
 
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Hi everyone,

so the same thing happend to me: during ironman play, I noticed that the constant autosaving stopped--I then saved my current game as a seperate save-file. Now I have two "non-ironman"-saves: my old one and the new save.

VERY frustrating. Any words from Paradox about fixing this issue?
 
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Dont stop posting until the front page is filled with these threads. At least give us the release date of the next patch if you are so convinced that it will fix this problem..... Allah damnned developers just laughing at us from their winterwonderland