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Solmyr

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Papal States can't convert on their own?

Now, normally the Papal States should not convert away from Catholic, obviously. However, in a recent game, they were force-converted to Protestant by England, and remained Protestant for the rest of the game without changing, despite having all Catholic provinces. This leads me to believe that it might be hardcoded for the Papal States to never change religion on their own. If so, this should be changed so that they can always return to Catholic no matter what.
 
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Re: Papal States can't convert on their own?

Originally posted by Solmyr
Now, normally the Papal States should not convert away from Catholic, obviously. However, in a recent game, they were force-converted to Protestant by England, and remained Protestant for the rest of the game without changing, despite having all Catholic provinces. This leads me to believe that it might be hardcoded for the Papal States to never change religion on their own. If so, this should be changed so that they can always return to Catholic no matter what.

Do catholic nations still have a CB on nations at war with the Papal Sates?
 

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It could also be that countries set to go CRC won't convert to any other religion but CRC, and since protestants can't go directly to CRC...


This should be easy to verify by force-converting some other CRC nations to protestantism and see if they can return to catholicism.
 

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So would editing the revolt file this way fix the problem this whole thread is about?


... their capitol, rome ...

Capital. The word is Capital. The Capitol is a building in Washington DC.
 

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Well that would solve it if they were annexed then either revolted or were set free, but short of an event with triggers if its not catholic or CRC i dunno since the AI line for counterrefrom is already on and its didn't seem to have an effect.
 

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OK, well I've added religion = catholic to the PAP revolt entry, I think that'll have to do for this issue. The odds of getting new code written to make PAP go Catholic when it can are about 0.
 

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I think it would be more of an issue of removing some code preventing them from going catholic. After all, if Rome is catholic, and all its other provinces are catholic, then PAP would be expected to go catholic as well (like any other AI nation). Yet it doesn't.
 

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Originally posted by Solmyr
I think it would be more of an issue of removing some code preventing them from going catholic. After all, if Rome is catholic, and all its other provinces are catholic, then PAP would be expected to go catholic as well (like any other AI nation). Yet it doesn't.

On the other hand, allowing change would mean that papacy holding rome and two dutch provinces (seen it) would turn reformed :p
 

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Well, when they elected Pope William of Orange, I knew we were all in trouble anyway.

;)