BUG: Enough with the weapons factories!!!!

[bovinespy]

Enough with the weapons factories!!!!

Not that I mind getting free manufactories..... BUT.... has anyone else noticed that the only "free" factories you ever get by random events are Weapons Manufactories?? Is it just me?? In my current GC as Portugal, I've received 5 (FIVE) of 'em - in Tago, Oporto, Cape Verde, Zambezia, and one other I can't recall right now. What gives? Why can't I ever get a Refinery, or Fine Arts Academy? It's especially irritating when I get them in provinces with Wine, or Sugar, or my Capitol, because I can't tear them down to put up a more regionally appropriate structure. Has anyone else had similar experiences? Do you like it or not? I'm kind of mixed - they certainly do help out with army maintenance and Land Tech, but I want some more VARIETY....

 

[Mr.Grahn]

Re: Enough with the weapons factories!!!!

Originally posted by The Fist Of God
Not that I mind getting free manufactories..... BUT.... has anyone else noticed that the only "free" factories you ever get by random events are Weapons Manufactories?? Is it just me?? In my current GC as Portugal, I've received 5 (FIVE) of 'em - in Tago, Oporto, Cape Verde, Zambezia, and one other I can't recall right now. What gives? Why can't I ever get a Refinery, or Fine Arts Academy? It's especially irritating when I get them in provinces with Wine, or Sugar, or my Capitol, because I can't tear them down to put up a more regionally appropriate structure. Has anyone else had similar experiences? Do you like it or not? I'm kind of mixed - they certainly do help out with army maintenance and Land Tech, but I want some more VARIETY....

I have the same problem, when i was playinag as sweden i thin k i got 6 or 7 weapon manufactories, sure it´s nice to hav ea 45 ducats i month bounus but i would be nice to get something else from time to time.

 

[Chuwawa]

Don't worry. They'll be taken out in the next patch.

 

[Lucidor]

Originally posted by Chuwawa
Don't worry. They'll be taken out in the next patch.

Not ALL manufactories, I hope! Not all free ones either, I also hope...

 

[AndrewT]

I did get a naval equipment manufactory once. Naturally it was in Jordan, a landlocked desert.

 

[bovinespy]

originally posted by AndrewT
I did get a naval equipment manufactory once. Naturally it was in Jordan, a landlocked desert.

NO WAY!!! You lucky bastard!......

originally posted by Chuwawa
Don't worry. They'll be taken out in the next patch.

Thanks for the good news! (Like Lucidor, I'm assuming that things will get BETTER in the next patch )

 

[JohnMK]

Originally posted by Lucidor
Not ALL manufactories, I hope! Not all free ones either, I also hope...

Good god, don't you care for a balanced game? If you want to win easily, just go edit the saved game file.

Free manufactories are very unbalancing, speeding up tech research to completion well before 1820.

John

PS: I think provinces with a manufactory should be assigned a % other than their default, in peace negotiations. Example: If Fladers is 40% without a manufactory, it should be maybe 43% value with.

John

 

[unmerged(6603)]

i like the idea of a greater value for manufacturies, but then you might want to include shipyards... conscription centers... etc... even if you or i didn't tihnk this was neccesarry, there would be those who would want all building improve the value of the province in peace negotiations, which maybe it should... but it would probably be more work than it is worth.

 

[Jan znr Vrees]

I don't mind free manufactories either, but I too think it's very annoying (also EUII) that they don't mind the resources of the province. If they only want to give free weapons manufactories, they should place them in iron or copper provinces, or at least not in capitols, or 'refinery', 'goods' or 'naval' provinces. A 'burn down' button might be useful

 

[Lucidor]

Originally posted by JohnMK


Good god, don't you care for a balanced game? If you want to win easily, just go edit the saved game file.

Free manufactories are very unbalancing, speeding up tech research to completion well before 1820.

John

PS: I think provinces with a manufactory should be assigned a % other than their default, in peace negotiations. Example: If Fladers is 40% without a manufactory, it should be maybe 43% value with.

John

Strangely - I have yet to open a saved game in an editor... Laziness, I guess... However, free manufactories should follow the province resource when created. I would also like to see the incidence of the free manufacory a bit depending on the number of provinces... Almost every 2 province minor gets two refineries in 100 years, while a 50 province major will also get around two.

//Johan.

 

[unmerged(6603)]

great points Johan!

But don't look a gift horse in the mouth... or whatever the phrase is... With the random events, it seems that same manufactury you get once every 50-100 years, also burns down once every 50-100 years

 

[Lucidor]

Originally posted by Lord Joseph
great points Johan!

But don't look a gift horse in the mouth... or whatever the phrase is... With the random events, it seems that same manufactury you get once every 50-100 years, also burns down once every 50-100 years

Mmm, yes... But the "free manufactory" event seems to be a little bit more common...

Anyway - it doesn't really matter too much what province a manufacory is in, since the important effects (research bonuses) aren't depending on the goods produced. It will always be the same.

 

[unmerged(6603)]

would it even be possible to add a "destroy factory" button?

 

[Lucidor]

Originally posted by Lord Joseph
would it even be possible to add a "destroy factory" button?

Could be useful when losing a province to an opponent...

 

[Vormaerin]

Originally posted by Lucidor
Mmm, yes... But the "free manufactory" event seems to be a little bit more common...

That is because the random event that destroys manufactories was removed in the 1.02 patch. The one that adds manufactories will be removed in the upcoming patch. Yay! The balance has been restored.

Aloha
Vormaerin

 

[Arkestra]

Good, I'm sick of a random event giving me a fine arts academy in a province I was just about to build a far more suitable manufactory in! My game seems to be obsessed with sprinkling fine arts academies around the place, it's very annoying.

 

[PatMaster]

I've got a refinery once. Although, it was in a historical event where you gained a manufactery in a random province, not the random 'gain manufactery' event.

 

[BiB]

Fix this bug!

 

[PatMaster]

Originally posted by Arkestra
Good, I'm sick of a random event giving me a fine arts academy in a province I was just about to build a far more suitable manufactory in! My game seems to be obsessed with sprinkling fine arts academies around the place, it's very annoying.

Oh poor you! I really feel your pain for getting a free manufactery

 

[unmerged(536)]

Originally posted by BiB
Fix this bug!

I so feel like giving U a pink card for this negative comment!