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AI cheating on supply?

This is probably one of the greatest misteries about the game right now: When AI armies are encircled, they seem to regain strength, organization and even receive newly deployes units.
Playing as germany, I attacked the SU. Trying to avoid gamey situation, I decided to destroyed the red armies by encircling instead of rushing towards moskva, stalingrad and leningrad. It is quite more hard to do in 1.03.
I had managed to totally encircle 32 russian divisions in two adyancent provinces of 34 and 50 in infra. No Forts. I attacked a group of 16 divisions in one province, but due to a nice shifting of forces by the AI an bad weather, I was force to retreated after loosing 8 divisions. The AI armies were highly damage too. However, after I send a sortie of tac bombers to check the exact damage I had done to the russian army, I notice that they were back to full strength (i.e. they did re-supply). Not only that, but they regain their organization very quickly, and were able to deploy 8 more divisions in the encircled province.

I know many players have experienced this before, but my experience negates the assumptions/explanations that forts are able to provide supplies. Also destroyed my believe that capturing capitals will produce armies to be always in supply. (because I never capture moskva)

Now, I am all for making the game more difficult, even if it means handicaping the human player. But I detest plain cheating like this, because it breaks the rules of the game, and makes strategies worth nothing.

I would like an official response from paradox about this issue. Does the AI cheat in army supply or is this a bug?
 
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well, that`s interesting.

- I`ve got a very old bug on this, which couldn`t be resolved, as it wasn`t reproducable. do you have a savegame for this?
- the ai does not cheat on supplies (at least not voluntarily). it was stated that the "AI uses the same supply and reinforcement rules as the human player)


"Does the AI cheat in army supply or is this a bug?"

-> does not cheat, if anything, it´s a bug.
 

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Yes, I do have a save, but of the game after the new deployment of troops in the encircle provinces ocurred ... If the AI does not cheat on this, I think it might have something to do with a failure in the algorithm that dertermines if an army/province is out of supply. The it is also possible that the "bug" will not be manifested after a reload, due to a recalculation of the "supply/not supply" situation. (I.E. The bug will not be reproduceable). Still, I haven't try to see if a reload fixes the issue.
 

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will reopen the bug as soon as I have the savegame :)
 

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Maximiliam,
I reload the game, and I am trying to hold and see if the AI will re-supply, until now it has not. I also have the auto save from the moment before I close the circle. As I said before, I fear that it is a bug that has to do with an error in determining if a province is encircled, and probably a recalculation will occurr after the game is reloaded, and the bug will not appear.
How do I send you the files??
 

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I've seen this (in limited situations) as well. Next time I notice I'll save game and send (if not resolved.)