Buff AT guns and Inf stealth

[Jim_Hatama]

Yes but i think the OP want AT guns to be stealthier.
I can understand because most of the casual players think being into yellow/green cover is a good concealment for AT guns... but in the reality of the game, its not really.

I am not against of a slight buff of the smaller guns stealth.

its not "not good" its almost non existent. IE gun in yellow can be seen at 1200(max engagment range) and maybe more. Infantry moving can be seen above 1200

 

[SeekerDolls]

Okay, Let me explain how it works.

Infantry recons have VH optics, which allows seeing medium stealth units in yellow cover from 1440m
And for green cover, it can detect ATG from 720m
Never, EVER hide them in yellow cover.

On the other hand, vehicle recons have H optics, which allows seeing medium stealth units in yellow cover from 960m
And for green cover, it can detect ATG from 480m
Which allows detecting ATG just outside of infantry AT weapon range.

Now let's modify stealth value of ATG from medium to good.
VH recon will detect ATG in wood from 360, well within Infantry shootout range.
H recon will detect ATG in wood from miserable 240m, making them obsolete.

1 Veterancy increases recon's optic strength by 15%, but usually Para deck have access to them and their purpose is giving them intelligence advantage.
If you having trouble to hiding them, just hold them backside of bocage and push forward when the opportunity comes.

 

[Jim_Hatama]

1 Veterancy increases recon's optic strength by 15%, but usually Para deck have access to them and their purpose is giving them intelligence advantage.
If you having trouble to hiding them, just hold them backside of bocage and push forward when the opportunity comes.

thats basically APM tax similar to Starcraft buildings queue. And for 720 green cover it will be over moment when ATG reposition itself to face tank. I mean recon usually only need to sit in right spot never really in danger, but every movement ATG and infantry is really disadvantage for them. usually 120 point gun will be killed immediately after reposition even in green cover. Poland deck have choice for m10 vs 120pATG almost everytime m10 will be better( better vs tanks, better vs inf, better vs planes,much faster, immune to small arms etc) And for vehicles with H optics I really don see anyone using them even once. At least not for recon. They in same spot with motocycle recons or jeeps for 35points.

 

[SeekerDolls]

thats basically APM tax similar to Starcraft buildings queue.

Bomb key target, Move AT gun forward. I think my grandma can do this.

And for vehicles with H optics I really don see anyone using them even once. At least not for recon. They in same spot with motocycle recons or jeeps for 35points.

Play armour deck. especially Pz Lehr. then you will see why you should use them.

 

[TGApples]

I think it's fine. In beta AT guns were quite a bit more vulnverable to air. After that changed AT guns can take a few hits and it's rare they get nuked after being spotted once.