BSG Season 19 - The Opera House

[Eternaly_Lost]

If the majority of the play group want to allow people mentioning iron will, that's fine with me, I can go with this in the future if 2 more people say they want to do it the other way. Although that somewhat turns iron will into a really strong card since it will be positive for all skill checks and are worth 4 strengths.

I disagree that it counts as 4 points. Keep in mind that Iron will does 2 things. 1. If you are within 4 of the pass, don't trigger the fail. That is not the same as a DE were you can pass if you are off by 1 or 2 points. Also if you end up negative or 0, you get a -1 morale for it. A cylon can go and play most of the cards in a test with someone throwing in Iron will to help and then the human end up with both the fail and an additional -1 morale.

Now take in to account that if you are above a partial pass, Iron will does not help as you trigger the partial pass, not the fail. It extremely risky to try and use it as 4 points, it give you a little coverage from a bad DD.

I do however agree that if someone brought up they could play a scout for fuel during a skill test, to do what you said, they are looking for a way around the rules. Scout for fuel can't be used in a skill test for an effect, Iron will can be. It very much is a judgement call and intent matters. Bringing up an Iron will or even a DE for a skill test when it happens is fine by me, just like telling someone that you could play a SP a roll or send a scout out if you get an XO. If someone brought up Iron will or DE (unless it was to brig someone or something like that) then they would be trying to tell others what they had in their hand, not trying to suggest a course of action and why that action is better then others. The rules in fact address that. Naming a card because you can use it effect is not to be used as a way to tell everyone what you hand is.

 

[glasszon]

Just to make it clear:
Rendap played 2 cards into the skill check
From now on you can mention iron will when needed, my job as GM is just to make sure the ruling is consistent

Action Queue:
Jopi - Still waiting for you

 

[Jopi]

Sorry, I was away yesterday.

Previously we've always played so that you can state if you have an IW/G&I or not. I think it says in the rules stuff like you can say if you e.g. XO someone, but this shouldn't be used as a roundabout way to divulge information about your hand: "I could either XO someone, repair something, lauch scout or consolidate power". I find this IW thing pretty much similar as public DE preloads, and I have no problem with those either.

1 weak.

 

[glasszon]

Destiny deck is empty and has been reshuffled.

With the fleet panicking about the impending cylon attack with the exposed civilians, only an iron will along with a timely declare emergency from Helo saved the day for the Humans.

TAC/ENG = 7
Engineering-3 (Scientific Research)
Engineering-6 (Build Nuke)

Leadership-0 (Iron Will)
Leadership-1 (Executive Order)
Leadership-3 (Declare Emergency)
Politics-3 (Investigative Committee)

9 - 7 = 2 FAIL!

EL plays Leadership-3 (Declare Emergency) to reduce the difficulty by 2 to 5.

No effect due to iron will.
Launch raiders, due to component limitation the basestar on sector 7-8 jumps in.
+1 Pursuit track.
Full out cylon attack, all cylon ships on CFB jumps in.

 

[glasszon]

Eternaly_Lost draws Leadership/2, Tactics/2, Piloting/1

Turn 10

[b][u]Player Status[/u][/b]
[i]Bolded player has the turn.[/i]
1. Trinitrotoluen: "Chief" Galen Tyrol [4+2T]
2. Kingepyon : CAG Lee "Apollo" Adama [6+3T] 
3. Jopi : Samuel T. Anders [3+3T]
4. Rendap : President Gaius Baltar [8+7Q+0T]  
5. [b]Eternaly_Lost: Admiral Karl "Helo" Agathon [2+5+2N+3T][/b]


Destiny Deck [10]

[b][u]Fleet Status[/u][/b]          [b]Distance[/b]       2/8

[b]Food[/b]       [COLOR="lime"]08/08[/COLOR]      [b]Vipers[/b]         0 Active, 5 in Reserve, 1 Damaged
[b]Fuel[/b]       [COLOR="lime"]06/08[/COLOR]      [b]Vipers VII[/b]     0 Active, 2 in Reserve, 2 Damaged
[b]Morale[/b]     [COLOR="lime"]09/10[/COLOR]      [b]Raptors[/b]        4 in Reserve
[b]Population[/b] [COLOR="lime"]12/12[/COLOR]      

Cylon Boarding [ ] - [COLOR="yellow"][ ][/COLOR]    - [COLOR="DarkOrange"][ ][/COLOR] - [COLOR="red"][ ][/COLOR]    -          [COLOR="Red"] [ DEATH  ][/COLOR]
Pursuit Track  [X] - [COLOR="yellow"][ ] 1c[/COLOR] - [COLOR="DarkOrange"][ ][/COLOR] - [COLOR="red"][ ] 2c[/COLOR] -          [COLOR="Red"] [ ATTACK ][/COLOR]
Jump Prep      [ ] - [COLOR="wheat"][ ][/COLOR]    - [COLOR="yellow"][X][/COLOR] - [COLOR="DarkOrange"][ ] 3p[/COLOR] - [COLOR="red"][ ] 1p[/COLOR] - [COLOR="Lime"] [ *JUMP* ][/COLOR]


Reserve   Civs  10
Active    Civs  2
Destroyed Civs  0


Ships and Resources Remaining
-- 1 Pop            x6
-- 1 Pop & 1 Morale x1
-- 2 Pop            x2
-- 1 Pop & 1 Fuel   x1
-- Empty            x2
-- Galactica Food Damage Token
-- Galactica Fuel Damage Token
-- Galactica 
-- Basestars x 1
-- Raiders x 17
-- Heavy x 4
-- Boarding Parties x4

[b]Galactica[/b]  (0/6 Damage)
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]FTL Control[/i] 
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Weapons Control[/i] [COLOR="orange"]Jopi : Samuel T. Anders[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Command[/i] [COLOR="orange"]Trinitrotoluen: "Chief" Galen Tyrol[/COLOR]
[i]Communications[/i]
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Admiral’s Quarters[/i]
[i]Research Lab[/i] 
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Hangar Deck[/i] [COLOR="orange"]Eternaly_Lost: Admiral Karl "Helo" Agathon[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Armory[/i] [COLOR="orange"]Kingepyon : CAG Lee "Apollo" Adama[/COLOR] 
[i]Sickbay[/i] 
[i]Brig[/i] 

[b]Pegasus[/b] (2/4 Damage)
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Pegasus CIC[/i] 
[COLOR="Red"]*[/COLOR] [i]Airlock[/i] 
[COLOR="Red"]*[/COLOR] [i]Main Batteries[/i] 
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Engine Room[/i]

[b]Colonial One[/b]
[i]Press Room[/i] 
[i]President’s Office[/i] [COLOR="orange"]Rendap : President Gaius Baltar[/COLOR]  
[i]Administration[/i]

[b]Cylon Locations[/b]
[i]Caprica[/i]  
[i]Cylon Fleet[/i] 
[i]Human Fleet[/i]  
[i]Resurrection Ship[/i]  
[i]BaseStar Bridge[/i]


[b]Off-ship:[/b]

Main Board

\      BRAVO   |   CHARLIE    /  
 \    Raider   |             /
  \            |            /
   \           |           /
    \          |          /
     \         |         /
      \        |        /
       \       |       /
        \      |      /
         \     |     /
          \    |    /
           \   |   /
A           \  |  /           D
L            \ | /            E
P   Civ       \|/   Civ x2    L
H   Basestar  /|\   Raider x3 T
A            / | \            A
            /  |  \           
           /   |   \
          /    |    \
         /     |     \
        /      |      \
       /       |       \
      /        |        \
     /         |         \
    /          |          \
   /           |           \
  /            |  Basestar  \
 /     Civ     |   Civ       \
/    FOXTROT   |   ECHO       \

Cylon Fleet Board

\      5-6     |      3       /  
 \             |             /
  \            |            /
   \           |           /
    \          |          /
     \         |         /
      \        |        /
       \       |       /
        \      |      /
         \     |     /
          \    |    /
           \   |   /
            \  |  /   
7            \ | /            
|             \|/               1
8             /|\             
             / | \   
            /  |  \            
           /   |   \  
          /    |    \    
         /     |     \    
        /      |      \   
       /       |       \
      /        |        \
     /         |         \
    /          |          \
   /           |           \
  /            |            \
 /             |             \
/       4      |      2       \

Cards in play:

Allies in play:
Louanne "Kat" Katraine (Hanger Deck)
Benevolent: Hotshot Pilot: Draw 3 Piloting Skill Cards.
Antagonistic: Stim Addiction: Discard 3 Skill Cards.

Ellen Tigh (Admiral's Quarters)
Benevolent: Savvy Manipulator: You may choose any human player to receive either the President or the Admiral title.
Antagonistic: Bad Influence: You are sent to the "Brig"

Caprica Six (Brig)
Benevolent: Cooperative Cylon Prisoner: Advance the Jump Preparation Track by 1.
Antagonistic: Delusional: Discard 3 Random Skill Cards and then draw the top 2 cards of the Destiny deck and add them to your hand of skill cards.

Action Queue:
Eternaly_Lost - Move/Action

 

[Trinitrotoluen]

Well, well, well. So, who wants to confess (not that the suspect list is very long)? 3 negative cards excluding Iron Will is 1 too many.

As for the attack, the timing could be better. I would think XO'ing me is the best course of action right now.

 

[Eternaly_Lost]

Well, well, well. So, who wants to confess (not that the suspect list is very long)? 3 negative cards excluding Iron Will is 1 too many.

As for the attack, the timing could be better. I would think XO'ing me is the best course of action right now.

We can tell with certain that Jopi put a negative card in. We take the Iron will out as Rendap said he was going to throw it in, and if Jopi was a human, he would not go and throw in an Iron will when someone else said they would. Jopi does not draw ENG, so he could not have put the ENG cards in, meaning that he put a Negitvive card in there.


So before I act, Rendap, if I throw you an XO, can you do something about Jopi?

 

[Rendap]

Unless I've misunderstood some of the cards in my hand (And I don't think so), Yes, I can.

 

[Eternaly_Lost]

Alright then.

Stay in Hanger Deck, encounter Kat.
Activate Hanger Deck, launch in a Vipers VII into Echo.
Play XO-1 on Rendap.

 

[Rendap]

Activate Presidents Office Twice.

After First Draw, Play:

ARREST ORDER

Action: Chose a character and send him to the 'Brig' location. Then discard this card.

Targetting Jopi

After Second Draw, Play

CIVILIAN SELF DEFENSE

Action: Choose 1 Civilian Ship. Destroy either 3 Raiders or 1 Heavy Raider in the same space area as that ship. Then roll a die. If 2 or less, the Civilian Ship is destroyed. Then discard this card.

Targetting 1 of the Civilian Ships in Delta.

 

[glasszon]

Helo encounters Kat, she is Antagonistic:
Antagonistic: Stim Addiction: Discard 3 Skill Cards.

EL: Please discard 3 skill cards of your choice.

Our new ally is:
Sharon "Boomer" Valerii (Armory)
Benevolent: Talented Raptor Pilot: Gain 1 Food.
Antagonistic: Botched Landings: Damage Galactica

EL: Please place a trauma token on Boomer.

Anders got escorted to the Brig on Baltar's order.

Action Queue:
EL - Please discard 3 cards and put a trauma token on Boomer
Everyone - Anyone want to SP the civ roll?

 

[Eternaly_Lost]

I vote we skip the SP on the roll, we don't really need to do it.

Discard:
Piloting-0 (Protect the Fleet)
Leadership-2 (Executive Order)
Leadership-0 (Iron Will)

 

[Eternaly_Lost]

It will be a good thing for us to run into this ally.

 

[Rendap]

NO SP from me

And I agree with EL that we can afford to take the chance on the roll.

 

[glasszon]

Roll is a 4, nothing happens.
3 raiders in Delta is destroyed.

Trauma token placed on Boomer

While Baltar detained Anders for some "questioning" regarding his resistance movement on Caprica, Galactica has picked up an unidentified colonial signal, what would Helo do?

CRISIS: Reunite the Fleet 

Current Player Chooses: 
Skill check: POL/LEA = 10 
PASS: +1 Population 
FAIL: -1 Morale and each player discards 1 Skill Card and draws 1 Treachery Card

OR 

Current player discards 2 random Skill Cards and draws 2 Treachery Cards

POST CRISIS: Activate Raiders, NO JUMP PREP

Was looking forward to see some fireworks from the civ popping in Delta, Rendap killed it.

Action Queue:
EL - Please make a decision on the crisis.

 

[Eternaly_Lost]

I rather not take the discard as I have 3 rather useful cards in hand, but I will take that over failing this skill test.

We know Jopi will throw in a Negative card, what can everyone else throw in? I can't play anything into this test myself.

Preload, if we don't have at least 2 strong or 4 weak in support (or a mix that ammounts to that ie 1 strong 2 weak,) go for the or.

 

[Eternaly_Lost]

I have been thinking about it some more.

Choose or

We don't want to risk the cards of everyone right now.

 

[glasszon]

EL discards:
Tactics-3 (Strategic Planning)
Tactics-3 (Strategic Planning)

raiders activate

 

[glasszon]

Trinitrotoluen draws Politics/1, Leadership/2, Engineering/2

Turn 11

[b][u]Player Status[/u][/b]
[i]Bolded player has the turn.[/i]
1. [b]Trinitrotoluen: "Chief" Galen Tyrol [4+5+2T][/b]
2. Kingepyon : CAG Lee "Apollo" Adama [6+3T] 
3. Jopi : Samuel T. Anders [3+3T]
4. Rendap : President Gaius Baltar [8+7Q+0T]  
5. Eternaly_Lost: Admiral Karl "Helo" Agathon [3+2N+2T]


Destiny Deck [10]

[b][u]Fleet Status[/u][/b]          [b]Distance[/b]       2/8

[b]Food[/b]       [COLOR="lime"]08/08[/COLOR]      [b]Vipers[/b]         0 Active, 5 in Reserve, 1 Damaged
[b]Fuel[/b]       [COLOR="lime"]06/08[/COLOR]      [b]Vipers VII[/b]     1 Active, 1 in Reserve, 2 Damaged
[b]Morale[/b]     [COLOR="lime"]09/10[/COLOR]      [b]Raptors[/b]        4 in Reserve
[b]Population[/b] [COLOR="lime"]12/12[/COLOR]      

Cylon Boarding [ ] - [COLOR="yellow"][ ][/COLOR]    - [COLOR="DarkOrange"][ ][/COLOR] - [COLOR="red"][ ][/COLOR]    -          [COLOR="Red"] [ DEATH  ][/COLOR]
Pursuit Track  [X] - [COLOR="yellow"][ ] 1c[/COLOR] - [COLOR="DarkOrange"][ ][/COLOR] - [COLOR="red"][ ] 2c[/COLOR] -          [COLOR="Red"] [ ATTACK ][/COLOR]
Jump Prep      [ ] - [COLOR="wheat"][ ][/COLOR]    - [COLOR="yellow"][X][/COLOR] - [COLOR="DarkOrange"][ ] 3p[/COLOR] - [COLOR="red"][ ] 1p[/COLOR] - [COLOR="Lime"] [ *JUMP* ][/COLOR]


Reserve   Civs  7
Active    Civs  5
Destroyed Civs  0


Ships and Resources Remaining
-- 1 Pop            x6
-- 1 Pop & 1 Morale x1
-- 2 Pop            x2
-- 1 Pop & 1 Fuel   x1
-- Empty            x2
-- Galactica Food Damage Token
-- Galactica Fuel Damage Token
-- Galactica 
-- Basestars x 1
-- Raiders x 17
-- Heavy x 4
-- Boarding Parties x4

[b]Galactica[/b]  (0/6 Damage)
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]FTL Control[/i] 
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Weapons Control[/i]
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Command[/i] [COLOR="orange"]Trinitrotoluen: "Chief" Galen Tyrol[/COLOR]
[i]Communications[/i]
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Admiral’s Quarters[/i]
[i]Research Lab[/i] 
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Hangar Deck[/i]
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Armory[/i] [COLOR="orange"]Kingepyon : CAG Lee "Apollo" Adama[/COLOR] 
[i]Sickbay[/i] 
[i]Brig[/i] [COLOR="orange"]Jopi : Samuel T. Anders[/COLOR] 

[b]Pegasus[/b] (2/4 Damage)
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Pegasus CIC[/i] 
[COLOR="Red"]*[/COLOR] [i]Airlock[/i] 
[COLOR="Red"]*[/COLOR] [i]Main Batteries[/i] 
[COLOR="Lime"]*[/COLOR] [i]Engine Room[/i]

[b]Colonial One[/b]
[i]Press Room[/i] 
[i]President’s Office[/i] [COLOR="orange"]Rendap : President Gaius Baltar[/COLOR]  
[i]Administration[/i]

[b]Cylon Locations[/b]
[i]Caprica[/i]  
[i]Cylon Fleet[/i] 
[i]Human Fleet[/i]  
[i]Resurrection Ship[/i]  
[i]BaseStar Bridge[/i]


[b]Off-ship:[/b] 
[COLOR="orange"]Eternaly_Lost: Admiral Karl "Helo" Agathon[/COLOR]

Main Board

\      BRAVO   |   CHARLIE    /  
 \             |             /
  \            |            /
   \           |           /
    \          |          /
     \         |         /
      \        |        /
       \       |       /
        \      |      /
         \     |     /
          \    |    /
           \   |   /
A           \  |  /           D
L   Raider   \ | /            E
P   Civ       \|/   Civ x2    L
H   Basestar  /|\             T
A            / | \            A
            /  |  \           
           /   |   \
          /    |    \
         /     |     \
        /      |      \
       /       |       \
      /        |        \
     /         |         \
    /          |          \
   /           |  Civ      \
  /            |  Basestar  \
 /     Civ     | ViperVII(H) \
/    FOXTROT   |   ECHO       \

Cylon Fleet Board

\      5-6     |      3       /  
 \             |             /
  \            |            /
   \           |           /
    \          |          /
     \         |         /
      \        |        /
       \       |       /
        \      |      /
         \     |     /
          \    |    /
           \   |   /
            \  |  /   
7            \ | /            
|             \|/               1
8             /|\             
             / | \   
            /  |  \            
           /   |   \  
          /    |    \    
         /     |     \    
        /      |      \   
       /       |       \
      /        |        \
     /         |         \
    /          |          \
   /           |           \
  /            |            \
 /             |             \
/       4      |      2       \

Cards in play:

Allies in play:
Sharon "Boomer" Valerii (Armory)
Benevolent: Talented Raptor Pilot: Gain 1 Food.
Antagonistic: Botched Landings: Damage Galactica

Ellen Tigh (Admiral's Quarters)
Benevolent: Savvy Manipulator: You may choose any human player to receive either the President or the Admiral title.
Antagonistic: Bad Influence: You are sent to the "Brig"

Caprica Six (Brig)
Benevolent: Cooperative Cylon Prisoner: Advance the Jump Preparation Track by 1.
Antagonistic: Delusional: Discard 3 Random Skill Cards and then draw the top 2 cards of the Destiny deck and add them to your hand of skill cards.

Action Queue:
TNT - Move/Action

 

[Trinitrotoluen]

move to hangar
play repair - 1 to fix the last 2 Mk. VIIs
play XO-1 on Kinge

My suggestion would be to visit Command, launch 2 Vipers and use Lee's power to hop into one.