British Southern france

[RagingMozart]

Why does Britain puppet Vichy France after the war against Germany instead of giving it back to France, even when historical mode is turned on? It's such a small thing in the game, but whenever I'm trying to rp as any small nation, this aspect, along with other border gore just annoy the hell out of me. Just seems unrealistic.

 

[Cpt.Cross]

Because when Vichy France is created its become a new tag and can then be claimed for land like any other Axis Power. Not historically correct but thats the reason.

 

[GrounchoVilla]

I havent seen this happen, but once I did see the USSR puppet a tiny communist state in Savoy

 

[PARAfel]

I Think Britain have to call free france an ally to this ''bug'' be fixed anyways.

 

[BeauNiddle]

If you free France then there is a decision / NF (not sure which) that merges Vichy back into France proper.

If Germany surrenders before that decision is made then Vichy still exists as a separate tag during the peace process and can be puppeted, etc. the same as everybody else.

In the games where I get a breakthrough and rampage all the way to Berlin I often see British or American Southern France. The games where I have to claw my way to victory slowly France combines properly.

 

[ThaHoward]

What DLCs do you have? My last game the Allies liberated Paris and both Free and Vichy France merged.

But from what I recall pre la Resistance this was not the case.

 

[RagingMozart]

What DLCs do you have? My last game the Allies liberated Paris and both Free and Vichy France merged.

But from what I recall pre la Resistance this was not the case.

I have all the DLCs.

 

[Sublime Sultan]

I think the Yalta Conference should have some borders fixed, like France getting back all its prewar territories and Ethiopia being liberated.

 

[MobiusTwo]

I think the Yalta Conference should have some borders fixed, like France getting back all its prewar territories and Ethiopia being liberated.

As much as I like the attention given to countries such as France, Spain, and Yugoslavia, it's rough watching the Allies and Comintern win WWII and then turn all of Europe into a horrendous mess of bordergore. In France, it's not uncommon to see France, puppeted Vichy France (also named France on the map), Occitania, and then Savoy directly annexed by either the United States or the Soviet Union.

In Spain, you often see liberated Galicia and Catalonia, and then the 3-4 factions of the Spanish Civil War are each released/puppeted by other countries, meaning that Spain is technically far more fractured and likely to erupt into conflict than it was in 1936. Bonus points if you see a "Spanish Spain" collaboration government existing because the AI is too stupid to core its own territory using the post-Spanish Civil War decisions.

In Yugoslavia, it's often to see Croatia independent from the rest of Yugoslavia, even if Yugoslavia was on the winning side of WWII (in real life they would certainly regain their former territory after the war). Often, Croatia separates Yugoslavia from the rest of its holdings in Slovenia, though the AI appears hardcoded to puppet Slovenia in Istria. Given the many new ways Yugoslavia can further balkanize in the upcoming patch, I am afraid of what the post-WWII map is going to look like for most playthroughs in the future...

I strongly dislike how the Yalta Conference railroads borders in Germany, which has screwed me over in the past, but there has got to be some sort of middle ground between the nonsensical postwar bordergore and screwing people out of peace deals.

 

[RagingMozart]

I think the Yalta Conference should have some borders fixed, like France getting back all its prewar territories and Ethiopia being liberated.

The Yalta Conference Event popped up during my game, but there was still a bunch of border gore, including British Southern France.

 

[Simone87]

I think the Yalta Conference should have some borders fixed, like France getting back all its prewar territories and Ethiopia being liberated.

Yes, the Yalta Conference should divide Europe into two spheres of influence and restrict annexations and the creation of puppet states to fixed states and countries.
In my last two games (the first as Uk, then as USA) I had to reunify France by annexing her states and returning them after the peace conference but her colonial empire was always dismembered.

In Spain, you often see liberated Galicia and Catalonia, and then the 3-4 factions of the Spanish Civil War are each released/puppeted by other countries, meaning that Spain is technically far more fractured and likely to erupt into conflict than it was in 1936. Bonus points if you see a "Spanish Spain" collaboration government existing because the AI is too stupid to core its own territory using the post-Spanish Civil War decisions.

Yes Spain after LR is the epitome of nonsensical bordergore. Apart from the fact that she joins Axis a few days before Germany's capitulation in almost every game with historical AI focuses, (likewise Ireland joins the Allies with the same timing), but this issue is offtopic.

 

[Cpt.Cross]

Yes, the Yalta Conference should divide Europe into two spheres of influence and restrict annexations and the creation of puppet states to fixed states and countries.
In my last two games (the first as Uk, then as USA) I had to reunify France by annexing her states and returning them after the peace conference but her colonial empire was always dismembered.



Yes Spain after LR is the epitome of nonsensical bordergore. Apart from the fact that she joins Axis a few days before Germany's capitulation in almost every game with historical AI focuses, (likewise Ireland joins the Allies with the same timing), but this issue is offtopic.

At the moment all the Yalta Agreement does is create the east and west German Tags and give Poland cores on German Territory.

 

[PurpulaPhoenixum53]

Agreed. The Conference needs to be desperately fixed. Somethings that could be changed.

- NAZI Germany loses cores (reverted to claims) on any territory by the Allies or Comintern
- East Germany should not have cores on Eastern Pomerania, Ostmark, and Silesia
- German cores on Austria should "expire" to highlight increasing resistance to German occupation in Austria
- German/Austrian cores in Sudetenland should be removed
- East and West Germany shouldn't exist (Open to debate) instead their respective lands should be set up to the historical occupations
- USSR should concede Bialystok to Poland (currently, Poland is missing this for a historical post-war)

I would also love to see a bit more deviance in the post-war world. For example, if the USSR struggles to liberate Eastern Europe, Poland's pre-war Eastern border should be potentially reset (making Poland a behemoth), while should the US not join Churchill should be able to set up his plan for occupations, while the French should be able to press the Monnet plan, with the US being able to also propose Morgenthau Plan.