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Also, the Assam Oil focus adds oil to the correct state, but requires that a different state (Bombay, I think) be controlled. Just a minor thing I remember from viewing the tree the other day. The Navy Funding focus has a text bug in that I think part of the custom trigger is wrong; it says "unlock light_cruiser_tech" or something, because that tech isn't localized. I think it needs a new or revised customer trigger.

The required state is Mandalay, even though the oil is added to the state of Assam as you said.
 

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put too much efforts on silly alt-history content.
I find the alt-history content fun, it draws a lot of players in.
Also, I don't think we need to go into so much detail as to replicate the exact details of historical campaigns as that could lead to many exploits and railroading. For example, you can just capitulate Japan very early by rushing nukes and invading Okinawa since the Devs put in a decision to replicate the historical Japanese capitulation, even though it makes no sense that the Japanese would just surrender after being nuked and losing some islands if they're still going strong in China.
An exploit I could see forming from inserting the Suiyuan campaign into the game would be that Japan could expand it (if it was a border conflict) and bypass the Marco Polo bridge debuff.
 
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That has been fixed in 1.6
Please also check the dockyard focuses/tooltips, the Indian Gentleman Officers focus/idea, and the Navy Funding tooltip. Thanks.
 

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Please also check the dockyard focuses/tooltips, the Indian Gentleman Officers focus/idea, and the Navy Funding tooltip. Thanks.

I have looked at the naval stuff, and they don't seem to have any issues. If you have a reproduceable case, please make a bug report with a save game.

Indian Officers is a hold-over from the old system of General skills. Will look into updating it.
 

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I have looked at the naval stuff, and they don't seem to have any issues. If you have a reproduceable case, please make a bug report with a save game.

Indian Officers is a hold-over from the old system of General skills. Will look into updating it.
Look at the completion_reward section for the RAJ_found_scindia_shipyard focus; it's trying to add a naval base in state 426, when it is supposed to be 429. I think it's a leftover from using the previous focus as a template. The first dockyard focus should be 429, and the second focus 426 (there are two references for each).

And it seems the tooltip bug must have been ninja-fixed in a recent patch, as I am not seeing it now. I am sorry about that.
 

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@Archangel85

One last thing...

In TfV, India has two unique planes with their own artwork, the Hawker Hart and the Hawker Demon. The problem is that these are in entirely the wrong techs: Interwar Fighter and 1936 Fighter respectively.

The Hart was a light bomber, so it should in fact be the Interwar Bomber and replace the Whitley.

The Demon was a fighter variant of the Hart, which is correct now, but it shouldn't replace the Hurricane in the 1936 Fighter role; a far more advanced aircraft, and one that India also used.

Have the Hart as the Interwar Bomber and the Demon as the Interwar Fighter, and everything else can be the same as the UK's air tech tree. The icons are still being used so you are not wasting anything.

Finally, India should start with Interwar Fighter and Interwar Bomber tech, because it already starts with CAS I tech, which currently looks weird as it is supposed to require Interwar Fighter tech. This must be an oversight?

Okay, that's me done on India now. :)
 

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Yeah and the RAJ has no opportunity to seek help from Germany if it turns imperial or democratic. I think an imperial germany which is interested into resotring its pre WW1 glory would love to weaken the UK influence in India somehow.
 

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Yeah and the RAJ has no opportunity to seek help from Germany if it turns imperial or democratic. I think an imperial germany which is interested into resotring its pre WW1 glory would love to weaken the UK influence in India somehow.
The issue is that India got expanded before Germany received their Kaiserreich and democratic update, i do agree however that there should be an option where Raj would seek from Kaiser Germany especially since one of the reasons along to take revenge against Treaty of Versailes is to stop UK/French colonialism and Raj would fit in that goal perfectly.

It would work similiar to the way when they ask Soviets or Nazis for help, the only difference would be is that they would join Central Powers instead and would be a free state instead of a puppet state.
 

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The issue is that India got expanded before Germany received their Kaiserreich and democratic update, i do agree however that there should be an option where Raj would seek from Kaiser Germany especially since one of the reasons along to take revenge against Treaty of Versailes is to stop UK/French colonialism and Raj would fit in that goal perfectly.

It would work similiar to the way when they ask Soviets or Nazis for help, the only difference would be is that they would join Central Powers instead and would be a free state instead of a puppet state.
Having 4-5 focuses for seeking help from different factions would look a bit clunky. I feel like there should be a generic "Seek International Support" focus that would unlock decisions to ask for help from various factions, like;

-Seek help from the German Reich
-Seek help from the Japanese*
-Seek help from the German Republic
-Seek help from the Kaiser
-Seek help from the Soviets

*Since the Japanese form their own faction now, I feel like they should be a seperate option from Germany.

Once you secure the support of one of these factions, it would unlock the focus to start the civil war. The focus path would split into different branches after this depending on which faction supported you, which would look more natural. The different German branches could also share a generic "Tech sharing with Germany" focus or two, which would also cut down on the focus bloat.
 
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Having 4-5 focuses for seeking help from different factions would look a bit clunky. I feel like there should be a generic "Seek International Support" focus that would unlock decisions to ask for help from various factions, like;

-Seek help from the German Reich
-Seek help from the Japanese*
-Seek help from the German Republic
-Seek help from the Kaiser
-Seek help from the Soviets

*Since the Japanese form their own faction now, I feel like they should be a seperate option from Germany.

Once you secure the support of one of these factions, it would unlock the focus to start the civil war. The focus path would split into different branches after this depending on which faction supported you, which would look more natural. The different German branches could also share a generic "Tech sharing with Germany" focus or two, which would also cut down on the focus bloat.

This. so much this
Considering all the alt-history paths (that I do enjoy massively) I'd suggest something like this should be atleast a medium priority for @Archangel85 and rest of the team, So even if you go Fascist as India you can ask for German Support. or still gain Japanese support if Both India, and Japan go communist.
 

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Wouldn't seeking help from the United States also be nice for an independent democratic India? I'm sure that the American public opinion would lean towards supporting decolonisation of a country from the British, the country that they got independence from (even though the British were their allies during the previous war), and it would allow an independent democratic India if there was no democratic Germany.

Another thing to change would be making the INC the Democratic party. They're currently the Non-Aligned party even though they were extremely anti-colonialism (Gandhi was the leader of the INC). The Non-Aligned party would become something like "The Imperial Legislative Council", the name of the Raj's legislature.
 

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Wouldn't seeking help from the United States also be nice for an independent democratic India? I'm sure that the American public opinion would lean towards supporting decolonisation of a country from the British, the country that they got independence from (even though the British were their allies during the previous war), and it would allow an independent democratic India if there was no democratic Germany.

USA should not be on the list, at least democratic one. USA didn't mind British and French colonialism during that time.

In fact when Hitler started expanding (after occupation of Czechoslovakia) Roosevelt send telegram to Hitler asking him to promise that he will leave other countries alone, what was funny that he disliked that Germany was expanding but he sure didn't mind that France and Britain had half of the world under their occupation, on the list there were even Egypt, Syria and Palestine claiming that they are sovereign nations despite the fact they weren't.
 

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USA should not be on the list, at least democratic one. USA didn't mind British and French colonialism during that time.

In fact when Hitler started expanding (after occupation of Czechoslovakia) Roosevelt send telegram to Hitler asking him to promise that he will leave other countries alone, what was funny that he disliked that Germany was expanding but he sure didn't mind that France and Britain had half of the world under their occupation, on the list there were even Egypt, Syria and Palestine claiming that they are sovereign nations despite the fact they weren't.
Actually FDR and Churchill clashed a lot over the question of the British Raj, with FDR even telling Churchill that their entry into the war was not to help the British keep hold of their empire. The United States was anti-imperialist as well as anti-communist, see how the Americans dealt with the Suez Crisis which was the final nail in the coffin for the British Empire. The reason throughout the Cold War that we saw the Americans in places like Vietnam was the threat of communist. We sided with imperialism because at least they were nations that sided with us on international issues unlike the Soviet Union. Though, I can see the hypocrisy in a lot of it.
 

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Actually FDR and Churchill clashed a lot over the question of the British Raj, with FDR even telling Churchill that their entry into the war was not to help the British keep hold of their empire. The United States was anti-imperialist as well as anti-communist, see how the Americans dealt with the Suez Crisis which was the final nail in the coffin for the British Empire. The reason throughout the Cold War that we saw the Americans in places like Vietnam was the threat of communist. We sided with imperialism because at least they were nations that sided with us on international issues unlike the Soviet Union. Though, I can see the hypocrisy in a lot of it.

To be fair, US Politics about Imperialism and self determination are more often than not "YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE ARE DOING IT GAIS" thinking. And in grand scheme of things, For Raj to get democratic help to get free from British control is to go the historical route, or by asking support from Australia and the French.
 

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Many in the US after the war said to the British and France they are supporting them to keep their old colonial empires. Maybe a democratic Germany could seek support by the US to break up the empires of Britian and France and seek some support to end the communist rule in the USSR. Especially if with the new alternative Focuses of the UK the Uk won't be a democratic state anymore.
 

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To be fair, US Politics about Imperialism and self determination are more often than not "YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE ARE DOING IT GAIS" thinking. And in grand scheme of things, For Raj to get democratic help to get free from British control is to go the historical route, or by asking support from Australia and the French.
Well France was worse than Britain, it fought every piece of its empire, where the UK invented the Two Nation theory as well as giving its pieces the parliament system. Now a lot of its is because they went broke after WW2, but America was great at speeding the empires to their death. Seriously read up on the Suez Crisis XD.