British Raj - Garrison template choice

[Rafled]

I'm wondering if it was intended for the British Raj to have an armored division as their garrison unit, when they don't have light tank researched (and don't have the garrison units stocked with the tanks)?

Its painful because things fall apart quickly unless you change the default division. I normally change it to the garrison division template, then things are fine. For others that don't realize what the problem is, it will provide a horrible experience unless the default is changed.

This is per the 1.9.2 beta, still an issue as of todays' patch, 04/30/20.

 

[xtfoster]

I'm wondering if it was intended for the British Raj to have an armored division as their garrison unit, when they don't have light tank researched (and don't have the garrison units stocked with the tanks)?

Its painful because things fall apart quickly unless you change the default division. I normally change it to the garrison division template, then things are fine. For others that don't realize what the problem is, it will provide a horrible experience unless the default is changed.

This is per the 1.9.2 beta, still an issue as of todays' patch, 04/30/20.

IIRC the starting Garrison Template isn't set in the files, but instead automatically picked when the game starts. All it looks at is which is 'best' and not if the equipment is actually available.

 

[Rafled]

IIRC the starting Garrison Template isn't set in the files, but instead automatically picked when the game starts. All it looks at is which is 'best' and not if the equipment is actually available.

Well then its logic is flawed; and causes many things to break due to angry locals.

 

[Harin]

In most of my last games I have had to go in and select a better garrison default division. At least the better one in my opinion. Unfortunately, I rarely notice the need until I start getting alerts that resistance is climbing.

 

[billcorr]

I'm wondering if it was intended for the British Raj to have an armored division as their garrison unit, when they don't have light tank researched (and don't have the garrison units stocked with the tanks)?

One might find humour in the fact that Podcat and crew named a Raj template "Garrison" template ...

and proceeded NOT to use the Raj's garrison template to...

garrison.

 

[Mister Analyst]

IIRC the starting Garrison Template isn't set in the files, but instead automatically picked when the game starts. All it looks at is which is 'best' and not if the equipment is actually available.

@xtfoster ,

You are correct. The game picks the "best" garrison template from each country's division templates. The "best" template is the one that gives the lowest cost to suppression ratio. That template becomes that country's default garrison template.

Six screenshots are listed below to show this. Note that each default template has the lowest cost/suppression ratio.

Default garrison for ENG -

Default garrison for FRA -

Default garrison for ITA -

Default garrison for JAP -

Default garrison for RAJ -

 

[pheonicia]

Might be best to have the default garrison template be scripted for nations with content.

 

[TemporalAnomaly]

If I remember this bug correctly, the problem is that RAJ starts with an armoured template without any armor researched. This screws up the stats for the template, as they are calculated with the best equipment you have researched. The game looks at the armored template and says, "Huh, this calls for light tanks. I have no idea what those are. I will just assume they are free." This makes it look like an amazing budget-friendly garrison to the AI.

edit: look at the screen-shots $12/suppression is way cheaper than anything else on any of those lists.

 

[billcorr]

I'm wondering if it was intended for the British Raj to have an armored division as their garrison unit, when they don't have light tank researched (and don't have the garrison units stocked with the tanks)?

Its painful because things fall apart quickly unless you change the default division. I normally change it to the garrison division template, then things are fine. For others that don't realize what the problem is, it will provide a horrible experience unless the default is changed.

This is per the 1.9.2 beta, still an issue as of todays' patch, 04/30/20.

"I'm wondering if it was intended for the British Raj to have an armored division as their garrison unit, when they don't have light tank researched "

Very good point.

One solution might be to give the British Raj tank technology.

The army in India had tanks (tankettes?) in the late 1920s or early 1930's fighting in the Waziristan campaign of 1935 - 1936 or thenabouts.

Here's a photo:

Spoiler: Link to website where the 1936ish tank in India came from

https://petermorwood.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F140857008927