Britain is hit or miss. Sometimes the naval landing AI kicks in real hard, and they sent big stacks after big stacks. Sometimes they won't land at all. If enemy has strong navy, they will be discouraged to naval land, even though from ship amount it might seen as britain has upper hand. The AI can't effectively deal with enemy naval stacks, hence it overvalues the forces necessary to engage in a naval landing mission.
Britain has to be the most useless ally in the game
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If they removed transport ships and let any ship move troops, I think the AI would handle it better.
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We were mostly an annoyance to Boney, and without the USA, that's all we'd have been for the man with the crap moustache.
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Seems pretty historically really, the way the UK seems to fight is to pay others to do the fighting while they use there navy to blockade. Also most importantly you can't forget to come swooping in very late in the conflict and taking the credit for the victory.
The British AI seems to be able to do 2 of those things. Which are sending money and blockaiding.
The British AI seems to be able to do 2 of those things. Which are sending money and blockaiding.
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You downplay the importance of staying in ww2. Without Britain standing firm and staying in the war the USA would not have been able to get over to europe successfully and Europe would have been left to Hitler or Stalin. So really, not giving in to Hitler was one of the biggest turning points of the war.
Nelson and.wellington are also national heroes for a reason.
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No I don't.
I emphasize that without the USA, us staying in WW2 would not have mattered anywhere as near as much as it did OTL.
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There is no denying that the USA were needed. Churchill recognised that from a very early time. We were on our own, everyone else had fallen. But once our own economy started to ramp up and the USA joined the war, we were far more than just an annoyance to Hitler. Germany had several years head start in preparation for war, so it's unfair to write anyone else off at a stroke.
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On the other hand, you overplay the importance of USA joining the party. The USSR was facing the majority of the german military and was winning anyway. The only time England actually sent an army to the continent (and kept it there more than 2 weks) was during WW1. Holding on to their island against Napoléon or Hitler was pretty easy and boring, to say the least.
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There is so much wrong with this, I can't even be bothered.
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they did fix that in one patch and i saw island nations landing often, and all nations take island more often. well now that AI tends to run away as soon as someone farts in their general direction, i guess it is logical that they would not land anywhere.
good times, only one patch but good times, back then i had the British as one ally just to discourage other AIs and I invited them to the war just because i could... and i saw a 30k army landing! A surprise for sure, but a welcome one. The OPM never saw it comig!
good times, only one patch but good times, back then i had the British as one ally just to discourage other AIs and I invited them to the war just because i could... and i saw a 30k army landing! A surprise for sure, but a welcome one. The OPM never saw it comig!
You say that but they were a holy terror in my Granada game, allying all three Iberian nations and regularly beating up on AI France, who I was using to fight the Iberians. If they have enough room to land they are a menace.
You have no clue what you're talking about, do you think getting their air force and navy annihilated had anything to do with losing on the eastern front? Or losing their oil in Africa? Did you know that the USSR could not manufacture boots for its soldiers and got them as a gift via allied nations? Did you know that there was a pacific front? I have seen this argument on the HOI4 forums a thousand times so go bother them with this nonsense.
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This basically sums up American dominance in the earlier 20th century. Why their economy, military, and logistics outstripped the rest of the world. Graphic made in 1940
Bear in mind their grip on oil was even more pronounced in the 1880s as even less places outside Texas and Pennsylvania were exploited. Venezuela too was under US umbrella. They could have easily disrupted or even choked off Venezuelan supplies to Europe. The glut and hegemony of the new wave of energy counts for most of the US rapid rise in production, wealth, influence, and general clout.
Just as the British Empire was built off early exploitation and dominance using coal, so too did the Americans usurp that role with oil. They basically did the same thing to Germany in both wars as Britain did to Napoleon with the exact same early energy dominance.
Bear in mind their grip on oil was even more pronounced in the 1880s as even less places outside Texas and Pennsylvania were exploited. Venezuela too was under US umbrella. They could have easily disrupted or even choked off Venezuelan supplies to Europe. The glut and hegemony of the new wave of energy counts for most of the US rapid rise in production, wealth, influence, and general clout.
Just as the British Empire was built off early exploitation and dominance using coal, so too did the Americans usurp that role with oil. They basically did the same thing to Germany in both wars as Britain did to Napoleon with the exact same early energy dominance.
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