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Did they change the AI's metrics on when it buys provinces? I just took 3 high BT provinces hoping to sell them to Naples, but they won't accept any of them, and now I'm at over 100% OE until Rome finishes coring in 4 years :mad:

eu4_302.jpg

"Naples has no strategic interest in Napoli".

wat
 

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You can not collect in nodes you have no province in and you don't want to send your trade to Western Europe node where the naval powers steal it. So the new strategy is to ensure you have in each american node a province directly owned to enable collect but outside the colonial region you actually use to mass colonise?
 

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Did they change the AI's metrics on when it buys provinces? I just took 3 high BT provinces hoping to sell them to Naples, but they won't accept any of them, and now I'm at over 100% OE until Rome finishes coring in 4 years :mad:

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"Naples has no strategic interest in Napoli" is kind of funny, because of how bad it is. :p
 

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WHere's the native interface? (Native ideas/pre techs/how do you migrate) I started a game as the Pawnee and couldn't find anything.
 

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Did they change the AI's metrics on when it buys provinces? I just took 3 high BT provinces hoping to sell them to Naples, but they won't accept any of them, and now I'm at over 100% OE until Rome finishes coring in 4 years :mad:

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Haha, "Naples has no strategic interest in Napoli [Naples]." That's hilarious.

The mechanical change suggested by your screenshot is fairly depressing, though. It was already pretty tedious to feed vassals 7-base tax at a time. The fact that the AI's reasoning for buying/not buying are largely opaque to the end user doesn't help matters.
 

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I used console commands to annex kazan as muscovy, I can only release them as protectorate...
Could you do a little test as Moscowy please, release Qasim Sultanate (Horde I think), annex it as kazan then release it (should be a vassal), and then war Kazan and occupy Qasim sultanate to ask for vassalisation? Will it then be a protectorate of Moscowy or a (grandfatehred) vassal?
 

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You can still keep their territory.

Sure, you can still conquer land in Asia. It's just vastly less efficient now than it was before.

Honestly, I'm not sure whether I'm happy or sad about that. Part of me feels liberated; patch 1.4 seems like it's telling me to just stay in Europe, guilt-free -- utterly unconcerned that I'd be missing out elsewhere, utterly unconcerned about idea groups or techs that don't contribute directly to conquest or diplovassalization at home.

Of course, the stay-at-home-and-vassalize-colonial-powers strategy was always valid and effective. 1.4 just pushes it further into the limelight.
 

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You can CUSTOM NAME your colonial nations?! Brb, buying this expansion NOW!! :laugh: :laugh:
I didn't buy anything - this is FOR FREE in 1.4 patch :)
 

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Question - can protectorate declare wars on his own?
 

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Yes.
 

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Thanks :)
 

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If i understand right Tarrifs are removed from game completely but Spain has one national idea that increase global tarrif by 15% and there is another in Exploration idea group so they become useless now?