So, I've noticed that when I come back to a game where a coalition has formed against me, someone usually drops out within the first month of me loading up. I experimentally tried saving my current game where I have a big coalition against me, quitting and reloading. Sure enough, a coalition member dropped out right away. What is going on with the AI here? Is it not checking to see if they want to drop out very frequently? Is there some check on load up that only happens once every few years?
Breaking coalition
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from what I've experience their is a timer between joining and leaving a coalition. Looks like that is kept in the save. While the relative strength isn't so when you save/load your save it might happen this thing.
I understand nothing?by dropout you mean they leaving coalition?
Yes, when I say drop out, I mean a member exits the coalition. They will stay in it for years in one play session, but if you save, exit game, reload game, and load your save, someone will typically exit the coalition promptly. Seeing as you aren't even loading a previous save, but the one you just dropped, this wouldn't even break ironman, for those who care.
There's a lot of checks that are somewhat infrequent in-game for performance reasons, but always happen on loading a save. Coalitions are far from he only one of these. Eg. choosing rivals - every time I load a save half the AI I've marked as 'interesting' drop a rival and add a different one.
Probably just resets their stance towards you accidentally or something.
I'd bug report this to be honest, it's a tad abusable.
I'd bug report this to be honest, it's a tad abusable.
Wouldn't this mean more people could potentially join a coalition against you (or whoever) on a load?
yes. But people that are going to join the coalition usually do right after the war (opinion becoming outraged because >50AE & relations <AE also triggers AI to check for coalition), so it would only happen if you take a huge manpower hit right before you reload, changing the power dynamic.