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Absolut said:
We already have a stabhit rule, but noone seems to remember/care about it.
I think this stabhit rule is good enough for the last session but I dont mind changing it.
Hehe, that's just so typical. :rofl:

KJ,
You know very well how things will develop when Nappy & CO spawn. This France might not be the strongest ever, but he got Wellington on his side. He got all other flanks secured but the German, well the Austrian.

And we know what land France want.
So this latest war against France was my last chance to make a real stand point towards Nappy. Two more well defended provinces would increase the odds to my favour a little atleast. But more importently, i would have lucrative provinces to negotiate with the French after a loss.
Of course everything can happen, Nappy can die a random death etc.
But if we are being realistic and stick to facts, the odds dont look very good.
You saw how my armies reacted towards Fred, with a leader (Laudon 5-5-6) well compared to Karl, the only leader i got against Napoleon. My Army was annhalited within seconds, despite same size etc. All 7-7 leaders are killers, and Austria cannot beat it with their own leaderfile. And France got two of those, including a better third leader then my best one.
And the reason why i have beated France since the wars of PE-Villars, is because of leader superiority. But i dont need to tell this to old nappy players. So i'm actually surprised that you think like that.

My last advantage is gone, i'm standing alone against Nappy, and perhaps also wellington, who knows :rofl:

And yes, this last war made me bitter. I've lost more land in Europe all together then anyone else have. Austria is the one that has been fighting every nation in this game except for Portugal. Austria was later ganged by the four most powerful land based nations in the game, about ten provinces in one go. I've lost more wars then i have won, if you count them all. Still people pity those i fight and help those i manage to beat :rofl:

If you take a look at the map the only Provinces France has ever lost was old Austrian land. Now this might not matter but It still prove the point that France is on the offensive, Austria on a slow decline. If someone made a powerpoint file ouf of this time span, the white spot replaced by the blue colour and later grey colour prove this decline.

I have no real hope to win over Nappy, frankly i'm utterly convinced that i will loose terrain. And cause of this latest war, the white spot will shrink even more. And another colour replacing it.

One more thing,
i know cheech has whined about this powerful Austria alot, and i'm aware of that the MP is a bit unbalanced in Germany compared to other places, but that doesn't remove the fact that Austria has more foes then friends. Austria got four fronts to protect while France have had one for the major part of this game. And that balance it out alot if you ask me.

And it's no secret that Austria normaly win over France after the time of Villars, cause then the Austrian leaderfile is better then the French until Nappy spawn, not much better though, but enough to give Austria an advantage. Before 1700 France won the most wars we fought, cause of the French leaderfile. And the French expanded to the Rhine adventually and got a nice piece of Italy, on expence of one nation only, Austria. The border has been the same more or less since 1700s, the French has expanded a bit more though. As we can see on todays map.
And when Austria is about to expand and take back lost land, Prussia pity France for loosing so much against Austria and decied to prohibit Austria from taking a last stand against the unavoidable doomsday.

Bitter? Oh yes i am :rofl:
And i sure dont like being so :mad:
 
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Fredrik82 said:
Hehe, that's just so typical. :rofl:

One would think that after the BB-Poland wars and the NL/England-Porto war, that this rule would be remembered and respected instead of forgotten and/or dont cared about.
 
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Fredrik82 said:
And the one breaking them most is the one who wrote them :D
Kinda funny really...

So, what have we learned from this session?

We have learnt that one should be familiar with the rules, if you had been familiar with them, France would have been forced to peace you, I think, I dont know how high the WE was nor how long the war had been going on.

Now, familiarise with the rules or else your head will be put on a pole in central Amsterdam. :cool:
 

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well, several notes.

Generally as i told in game, i surely assign this game as worst fun campaign for myself ever. There were a lot of "secure" wars and no real entertaiment around here, and i didn`t see the ways to get it better.

Poland. Two sessions ago i want, of course, punish HAL. But he didn`t arrive previous session, so Lurken, the sub was damaged. I was waited for fire 6 leader for Poland, but when he came, Lurken had to leave. So at the beginning of this session Russia dowed Poland anyway to grab what we were going to take from HAL.

Then i notify the world, that if someone dows Poland, i`ll repeat my dowing too. OE dowed Poland, so it decided the destiny.

Last session. Well, if we are going to wars, which will be slow speed, i believe we have time for two sessions. Most probably next time we`ll play only 15 years.
 

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Prussia pity France for loosing so much against Austria and decied to prohibit Austria from taking a last stand against the unavoidable doomsday.

Most of what you said is strue apart from this. KJ made a deal to get land in return for an easy win against you. Pity has nothing to do with it.

I dont normally accept this many stab hits. Not in my other current games either. Not sure why other than fustrated about how easy my forts fell when i couldnt assault yours. One point though is that i did wait til your war with prussia was finished. TWICE. How many other people would do that? As for standing alone against nappy I dont really know what im going to do with him. I wanted a nice end game which i was building up for but its gone a bit shit shaped.

If the war was faught again i would have accepted your terms.
 

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Russian Tsar offers Great Sultan to buy former polish province Podlisia for 5 000 ducats. We hope that is more than fair price to compensate Sultan.
 

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Why would anyone pay 5000 ducats for that shit hole.
 

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because our relations with OE are very complicated.

Art demonstrated a lot of steps of friendship, and i rarely attack nation without human CB (i think almost all players forgot that they need CB to dow :D ). At the same time our relations with Wald`s OE can be called as feud :p

Russia would like to form round shape at former polish lands, and i`m sure i could reach agreement with Art during the game. But because of present situation i prefer to pay 5 000 ducats to Art and close this topic without any unpleasure for OE.

If Wald is playing next session, i, of course, see no reason for this deal :D
 

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Tonioz said:
Russia would like to form round shape at former polish lands, and i`m sure i could reach agreement with Art during the game. But because of present situation i prefer to pay 5 000 ducats to Art and close this topic without any unpleasure for OE.

I'll be playing next session - I accept that most excellent offer.
 
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How lovely of you.
:mad:

Sorry for that ;)

But traditionally the OE is weak compared to naval powers due to them being allowed to endless land, assault a few provinces and then stab hit. So, any smart OE just has to open their CoTs for foreigners if they don't want to lose them...either that or make solid diplomacy deals :)
 

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FAL said:
Sorry for that ;)

But traditionally the OE is weak compared to naval powers due to them being allowed to endless land, assault a few provinces and then stab hit.

Aye, I know the way it goes.
PJL's a reasonable sort of a bloke so mabe I can work something out with him. Gives me an issue to start off next session :)
 

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It is not time to discuss or to complain , so I will join to discussion on tuesday :)

Now I only want to wish You all a Happy Easter

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Hope for Resurection. That what Poland needs
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perhaps the polish exiles will join napoleon to free their homeland.


then again maybe not...
 

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cheech said:
perhaps the polish exiles will join napoleon to free their homeland.


then again maybe not...

No way! After frogs attacked us from Black Sea?!

Since my country is eaten I can only sub now, let me know which country will need leader tommorow.
 

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Are we starting at 19:30 or 19:00 tomorrow night?
 

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19:00
 

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