Botched alliances

[Viator]

Well now, conquistadores and discoverers have started appearing aplenty, and I have a new questions for all ye Samaritans on the mailboard.

As Spain I have allied myself with Milan, Austria and Lothringen in order to deter a possible French aggression. As soon as the stinking Gauls declared war nonethless, ALL of heir allies (Scotland, Savoyen, Navarra...) have joined the war on their side, but NONE of mine have come to my rescue! I have played the situation again and again, and the trend never faltered.

Did I do anything wrong, is there a bug, or is the computer programmed to favour non-human player beyond any degree of fairness? I am sure I am allied with those nations, and am playing under patch 1.10. Should I ask my allies personally to join the war, and how should I do this? There seems to be no specific options in the diplomatic menu!

Thanks for help in advance,

Viator

 

[J. Passepartout]

Do you click yes on the message asking if you want allies to join? Little rectangular boxes often appear in the upper right corner. Click on them.

 

[unmerged(11600)]

Also, if your relations are low enough (say, less that +20), your allies may not join even if you do ask them. Alliances can also fall apart when a-i members don't keep up relations with each other; then when one member goes to war another one drops out. So recently in my current game (Violence is the Last Resort, plug plug ) when Russia is first, Sweden drops out; when Sweden is first, Russia drops out; and when Portugal was first, China drops out .

-Pat

 

[Stonewall]

In my experience an ally will almost always declare for you if their relations with you are higher than with the country you are going to war with. If your allies aren't coming to your aid, check out their relationship with you and the other country...maybe that explains it.

 

[unmerged(5184)]

Does the strength of the enemy have anything to do with the allies declining to join the war?

It sure influenced a lot of my decisions.

 

[Stonewall]

Originally posted by Scylax
Does the strength of the enemy have anything to do with the allies declining to join the war?

It sure influenced a lot of my decisions.

If usually influences my decisions as well. However, I have never seen strength taken into account by a computer controlled country....either in declaring war itself or in responding to an allies pleas for help. So, use it you your advantage. Decare war on people with really weak allies that you don't have a CB on and can take easily.

 

[Morpheus506]

I agree with Stonewall. I've seen comp. players such as, say, Thuringen, go to war with Austria, who at the time has a 50K army right across the border that immediately annexes Thuringen. The AI doesn't seem to care....

 

[Stonewall]

I love that Thuringen and Austria example. I like declaring wars on folks I have a CB on and then annexing their allies without the stability hit.

 

[Morpheus506]

Yeah. Or if the whole alliance is made up of German minors, annex the allies then annex the DoW-er

 

[Stonewall]

I agree completely. Only problem is the immense BB hit you take when eating up all those 1 province German minors...pain in the butt...but well worth the effort since they are such rich provinces.