Bohemia forms HRE = game over?

[n0thin]

Fast way: Declare war and sponsor rebels all over the place. Occupy some stuff fast (and the unconnected stuff ofc), then just defend and let the WE and the rebels kill them. May require a lot of minting.
Long way: Conquer a land connection to your Bulgarian holdings (via Ukraine and Moldavia), then go east. Anatolia is pretty rich, so are parts of Russia. Conquer from there further in any direction, you're still Austria and therefore pretty strong. You could also colonize or conquer/inherit the western parts of Europe. Once you're strong enough, kill that pesky HRE.

 

[Red John]

Try and inherit it. Prove you're a habsburg!

 

[Enric de Vimon]

Why do you make empires with these weird borders? It's bad connected, hard to move the armies if you need to. :blink:

 

[Lord Curlyton]

My question is: when did he leave the HRE? Or better yet, why wasn't he the emperor? Failing that, wasn't he at least paying attention to the reforms? I make a point of revoking imperial reforms if they get past 4, and if I'm feeling really ornery I make sure they never keep a single reform.

 

[Red John]

Why do you make empires with these weird borders? It's bad connected, hard to move the armies if you need to. :blink:

He didn't intend to make an empire that messy. I'm not sure why he left the empire though.

 

[n0thin]

My question is: when did he leave the HRE? Or better yet, why wasn't he the emperor? Failing that, wasn't he at least paying attention to the reforms? I make a point of revoking imperial reforms if they get past 4, and if I'm feeling really ornery I make sure they never keep a single reform.

There are lots of ways to play this game and the only real parameter for measuring them is the amount of fun. A slightly different Austria game might be more fun than the usual streamline Austria game with being perma-Emperor and in the end forming the HRE.
He is in this situation now and asking what he could do. Not what he could have done.

 

[Lord Curlyton]

Ok then, he needs to slap the HRE while its still getting adjusted to life as a single nation. Sponsor revolts/nationalists/patriots/whatever as quickly as possible, mint and/or take some loans and drag them into a war and stack wipe their main armies, then stack wipe their next set, and so on, until you've drained their MP. Siege and occupy for as long as you feel necessary to drive up the WE then peace out for whatever provinces you want + whatever nations you want to release (preferably ones that divide them into pieces). Watch the glorious chaos of their disintegration and then repeat the process as soon as the truce timer expires (or before, if you have a juicy CB and money to spare to quickly restore stability). A fully formed HRE that is formed by a non-German nation (usual candidates: Bohemia, Burgundy) will have loads of non-core provinces, likely overextension, and can swiftly see themselves at war with all the other major powers if their diplomacy is lacking. A recipe for destruction if not done right (i.e not the player).

 

[ZomgK3tchup]

If you have a decent-sized state, there's no reason why you should lose to any AI. Use Scorched Earth, let the AI occupy, and then obliterate. Keep doing this until the AI is out of money or manpower or both and then carpet siege.

I doubt the empire has a lot of cored provinces, so once you start breaking its armies, its faraway provinces should start falling to rebels as well.

Then, for the additional warscore, you could start blockading If Bohemia just formed the empire, then it shouldn't have a sizable navy. You should just be able to win one or two confrontations and then initiate a total blockade.

 

[Lord Curlyton]

Yeah if a nation that was German-cultured had formed the HRE then it would be a MUCH tougher nut to crack. Like if a Bavaria or Palatinate or Hesse pulled this stunt, then most of the HRE would be cored. Not something I want to think about.

 

[Praetorian44]

I'm a little amazed, I've never seen the AI form the HRE.

 

[apsycobear]

Yeah if a nation that was German-cultured had formed the HRE then it would be a MUCH tougher nut to crack. Like if a Bavaria or Palatinate or Hesse pulled this stunt, then most of the HRE would be cored. Not something I want to think about.

Culture doesn't affect the HRE formation. The way cores are determined in the formation are if you own a province in the empire, and that province is cored, you get cores on all imperial provinces owned by HRE nations that border said province.

 

[unmerged(540854)]

Culture doesn't affect the HRE formation. The way cores are determined in the formation are if you own a province in the empire, and that province is cored, you get cores on all imperial provinces owned by HRE nations that border said province.

The uglier your borders within the HRE the better so to speak.

 

[hitchens]

My question is: when did he leave the HRE? Or better yet, why wasn't he the emperor? Failing that, wasn't he at least paying attention to the reforms? I make a point of revoking imperial reforms if they get past 4, and if I'm feeling really ornery I make sure they never keep a single reform.

I left the HRE oh when was it? It was quite early. I dont like being in it so I always leave. And if I take territory I just leave the HRE right away so I dont get unlawful territory. Bohemia managed to get refors pretty quikly, I left when they had like 3-4 left.

He didn't intend to make an empire that messy. I'm not sure why he left the empire though.

Yeah it was not my intention. I inherited some land and there came the ugly borders.