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XavierSS

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Alexus said:
How can the Germans be holding back TWO HUNDRED AND NINETY divisions? It's impossible!

When Earth Savior is playing BELIEVE ME that everything is possible.


BTW: HOW THE HECK YOU HAVE A ATOM BOMB IN 1942 AS REPUBLICAN SPAIN I UNDERSTAND CHEATING BUT THAT IS FAR TO MUCH EVEN FROM YOU :rofl:
 

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XavierSS said:
When Earth Savior is playing BELIEVE ME that everything is possible.


BTW: HOW THE HECK YOU HAVE A ATOM BOMB IN 1942 AS REPUBLICAN SPAIN I UNDERSTAND CHEATING BUT THAT IS FAR TO MUCH EVEN FROM YOU :rofl:
1. Relax, I can't even use the nuke until I get to the secret techs, which I havn't even tried researching.

2. I hate RED!

I have 20 more infantry divisions coming out of the cycle every few months.

Does anyone have actual ideas of what I can do with my 290 infantry divisions? Hopefully to break the stalemate. :confused:
 

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1. Relax, I can't even use the nuke until I get to the secret techs, which I havn't even tried researching.

2. I hate RED!

I have 20 more infantry divisions coming out of the cycle every few months.

Does anyone have actual ideas of what I can do with my 290 infantry divisions? Hopefully to break the stalemate. :confused:

OK your key to the win is Dijon, move all your armies from brest you said 120 divisions to Clermont Perrard.

When you already moved them , take about 25 of those and move them to Lyon, but via St.Etienne.

You got know 95 div in Clermont and 25 in Lyon.

Move 30 of those to Vichy, and 65 of those to the province just inder dijon. move those 25 to Besancon.

THEY MUSTY ARRIVE THE SAME TIME.

Be sure that you will not recieve ANY staking penalties.

Now when units arrived you have:

4 armies +35 div in Vichy, 6 armies +65 div under Dijon, and 5 armies +25 div in Besancon.

You attack on dijon (all units must have arrive the same time) and support attack from Besancon and Vichy with all your troops if necessary.
When its 6 hours left for your units to arrive in Dijon, you order army in Besancon to attack Mulhouse, and armies in Vichy and all other armies that are available to attack Auxerre.
Your units will arrive in Dijon and get no attack at all, so they will regain . org

If you manage to do so, use your imagination and move further.

I will not use red anymore ;) ;)
 

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If you attack with 120 divisions simultaneously, they will lose because of massive stacking penalties. Seriously, you're doing something utterly wrong, because you should be in Berlin by now. I mean, you got to the middle of France SOMEHOW?
 

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I don't think that its because he's attacking with 120 divisions. I think its because he's attacking with 120 divisions without an HQ.

If I stack eight divisions in Grenoble, and I'm sure that the Italy player has no HQ, then I can be pretty confident that twelve divisions aren't going to be able to punch through that mountain province with a level 1 fort. But if he attacks with 48 divisions, he's got 12 divisions under an FM fighting at full efficiency. Sure, the other 36 will only fight at -75, but they'll do a great job soaking up casualties. Wasteful, but it gets the job done if needs must.

His best bet, given his approach of magically creating an invincible force but not wiping away the enemy's units by magic would be to simply create an HQ at Brest and to restore those 120 divisions to full org.

A 24-stack attacking each of the neighbouring provinces, each with an FM-led formation, could defeat the enemy's forces in the neighbourhood. To give them staying power, each stack could be backed by half of the remaining 96 divisions. These attacks would be horrendously wasteful, similar to his previous attacks, but each would be roughly twice as effective as anything he's done before. There is a time and place for such tactics in real gaming, and I've encountered it in MP.

Simply judging what forces are needed to hold a province based upon command limits is wrong-headed. If the enemy uses four times that, your reserves don't cut it.
 

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Things are looking up. I took the divisions from Brest and used them on the front line. After killing about 20 German divisions by encircling them in Vichy, I moved on to Paris. The bad news is that the Reds are advancing. Portugal tried to stab me in the back, but I destroyed them.
 

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Taking LeHavre might destroy alot of German divisions, but it will also shorten the German front and allow them to concentrate their remaining forces...which they are sure to reinforce with fresh troops. I bet that will stalemate you again along the Belgian/French border eventually.

Instead, get crazy, withdraw from Paris, shift your forces to assault Freiburg, and keep pushing north, aiming for Wilhemshaven.

When you withdraw from Paris the Germans will have to fill the vaccuum, hopefully weakening the right of their line....this should allow you to push quickly around them and cut ALL of their forces off west of the Rhine.
 

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Too bad I got here too late, but if your advance grinds to a halt again, go straight though Italy and into Austria. The computer does a terrible job protecting their flanks. Just make sure you have moutain troops, and move quickly to decimate their industry. Once you hit their soft underbelly, they will move troops from France, and you can envelope them.

BTW the allies are terrible at landing anywhere. I played as Australia and took over Southeast Asia and never finished the game because the US never lifted a finger anywhere other than the Soloman islands. My navy was not big enough with the what the Japanese navy had left over. So you will be on your own with this fight.
 
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I can't win!!!

I have 120 divisions in Brest that won't make any progress. Every time I try to move, they push me back with armored divisions. None of my other forces can make any progess.

All those divisions are great, but the polish tried attacking tanks and mech units on horseback and got slaughtered. Any reason why you've refused to build even light armor? You just need a few divisions to punch a hole through where the germans don't have any armor, then poor your infantry troops through the hole and isolate his armies in pockets. Mop it up with your armor - even if it's just light armor - supported by all the surrounding infantry. You'll be on the border with the Soviets within two years and all that German IC will be yours.

A side note - 3 or 4 CAS or Tac bombers to simultaneously attack where you're looking to punch through will do you wonders. Don't forget the combined arms deal as well. 1 light armor division with two motorized or mech divisions with all your infantry supporting should punch a hole in no time. A HQ would be a bonus - but not required. Just remember to have your best offensive (perhaps if Spain has a Offensive/Trickster/Panzer leader) General in charge of that armored army. Or use a few winter specialists in a targeted area, and wait until the terrain is snow covered.

Your options are pretty much limitless - but for some odd reason, you're holding to the WWI tactics of massing lots of men and charging those trenches (For the germans are undoubtedly dug-in). Air and armor are the only things that are going to afford you the advantage. Best of luck, and let me know how it goes.
 

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move those units out of brest into Limoges and lermont-ferrnad(below vichy) and retreat those units from the province above chaturuox the germans will take the the two provinces creating a bulge in their line now take back bouges and isolate the units in chateroux repeat until the germans lines else where are thin enough to break then steam role the not giving them chance to recouparate
 

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TigerCub said:
All those divisions are great, but the polish tried attacking tanks and mech units on horseback and got slaughtered. Any reason why you've refused to build even light armor?

There's a terrific reason. If you're IC-limited and manpower-unlimited, infantry gives you the best bang for the buck. If you'll look at the top line of the screenshots, he's given himself 4000 manpower (enough for 400 divisions), and the fact that armour is about 8 times more expensive than infantry. 4 infantry divisions will defeat a single armoured division handily, given equal org.
 

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There's a terrific reason. If you're IC-limited and manpower-unlimited, infantry gives you the best bang for the buck. If you'll look at the top line of the screenshots, he's given himself 4000 manpower (enough for 400 divisions), and the fact that armour is about 8 times more expensive than infantry. 4 infantry divisions will defeat a single armoured division handily, given equal org.
Exactly. It's a strain on my IC to build even 4 armored divisions at once.