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I know logic isn't the strong suit here but johho's vote did nothing other than help the village since WE DO NOT WANT TIES.
Believe as you wish.
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And how exactly was there going to be a massive change of two votes in the last minute that johho888 posted so that a tie could happen?
This all smells suspicious.Let's not forget that Eternaly_Lost who tried last - minute vote changes was a wolf too.

All it would've taken to tie was one vote.
 

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And how exactly was there going to be a massive change of two votes in the last minute that johho888 posted so that a tie could happen?
This all smells suspicious.Let's not forget that Eternaly_Lost who tried last - minute vote changes was a wolf too.

It was 8-6; all it would have taken is one Arkasas voter to switch to sexy.
 

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And how exactly was there going to be a massive change of two votes in the last minute that johho888 posted so that a tie could happen?
This all smells suspicious.Let's not forget that Eternaly_Lost who tried last - minute vote changes was a wolf too.

Someone with vote on Arkasas unvotes and votes sexytoes -> tie.

edit: others ahead of me...
 

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All it would've taken to tie was one vote.

It was 8-6; all it would have taken is one Arkasas voter to switch to sexy.
Oh yes,both of you are right.
But still,I am not too fond of last minute vote changing.
EDIT:Oh it was Panzer Commander that did the last minute bandwagon,not Eternaly_Lost.
It seems I have forgotten what has happened in this game.
 

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Oh yes,both of you are right.
But still,I am not too fond of last minute vote changing.
EDIT:Oh it was Panzer Commander that did the last minute bandwagon,not Eternaly_Lost.
It seems I have forgotten what has happened in this game.

Last minute vote changes are suspicious, but in this case, the switch changed nothing, it simply stop the possibility of a tie, which is good for the village.
 

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Night Six


The atmosphere had taken a slight downward slope after the news of The_Split circled round everyone. Maybe it was quieter due to the fact he wasn't around, rather than shock at his killing. The easy lynchings the past 3 days had relaxed the minds and given an invincible feeling to everyone, but today no Tamius had appeared to tell you what to do, you have a shock bump down to earth that you have to start thinking again. The mumblings go round that at some point 'Arkasas' was predicted as being dodgy and it seems an easy choice to throw his name about and get a nice rope to fit his neck. Within no time he is dragged off to a willing branch an hoisted up to a cheer... You realise its too late when you discover his true identity

Arkasas, the Padre is no more.....

The atmosphere is even quieter than before and everybody parts with out hardly a whisper. Thing get worse in the morning as out in the snow you find 'Puchas' has been turned into someones meal.


Puchas was your normal everyday 5th in command villager
 

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I've said there was never a good argument against Arkasas. It a shame that he was a useful goodie though. Now can we please vote Glio?

Vote Glio
 

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How can you blame someone for not voting for a bad guy when you don't know the identity of everyone he has voted for? Maybe everyone he voted for is bad and still alive. Does that make him a good lynch? It runs along with the assumption that when a villager is hung everyone who voted for the other candidates is automatically suspicious. How does that logic work? Let's say the "methodical" players get their way and there are 3 candidates every day and all of the villagers votes are split among those three fairly evenly. On the days that a villager is lynched, which without an outtting will be often, 66% of the village is automatically looked at as they are guilty. WTF? How does that help anything? Short answer is that it doesn't, at least until the identity of those involved are known.
Capt. Kiwi and I are the only two actually advocating methodical play as it was practiced back in 2011-2, so I think you must be confused - otherwise that amounts to a pure strawman.

I have said myself that the information we have is minimal. I have said myself that concluding that someone is a baddie simply because they voted for the alternative candidate to a baddie isn't right - all the more so in a game that seems to have an abnormally high proportion of baddies. We've coupled that with three straight outings, leaving us with the much less useful pre-outing situations to examine for those days. Even if for this game it's ultimately futile to attempt analysis - which we won't know until the end - that's not true in general, and the alternative to analysis is effectively using random number generators to vote.

Going against what Capt. Kiwi and I are talking about is totally counterproductive. We've had in this very game at least one suggestion of switching away from frontrunners onto a new set of candidates "because we've got information on them now". No we don't! If at any point the targets can be redirected by such inane comments, the information of a voting pattern falls apart. Our friendly self-appointed-yet-furry mayor says "Okay enough heat on these guys - let's kill someone else instead". Gleefully retargets off a packmate and onto a villager. If you know that nonsense is a possibility then your pre-redirect vote is meaningless. We also had the mad suggestion that THE_SPLIT was the most cleared player. How - because he metagamed Reis and Reis proved to be a cultist? There are two other packs he could have been part of!

That sort of nonsense, and worse, is what I expect from a village if not held to some sort of standard. Apparently you played during a halcyon era in which people had a higher standard. I wish that were so, but any foolishness you're seeing today is not a result of trying to play methodically - if anything it's the consequence of not doing so.
 

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Arkasas, the Padre is no more.....

Thing get worse in the morning as out in the snow you find 'Puchas' has been turned into someones meal.

Puchas was your normal everyday 5th in command villager

lol.jpg
 

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You can say that again Mr. Hat.

mr_garrison.jpg









Night one:
no kill


Day one

Ithvan: 9
Capt. Kiwi [354]
seamus2008 [371]
reis91 [377 Drxav -> 408]
The Super Pope [366 Panzer Commander -> 413]
Gliomarto [438]
Puchas [455]
sexytoes [460]
johho888 [360 narref -> 474]
pjnlsn [404 reis91 -> 481]

GuG: 9
tonkatoy5 [387]
Vainglory [389]
Falc [396]
narref [378 Johho888 ->468]
Hax [379 Teep -> 476]
videonfan [328 drxav -> 394 INVALID -> 490]
Ithvan [412 narref -> 456 GuG -> 507 reis91 -> 519]
Panzer Commander [329 Arkasas -> 442 Narref -> 492 reis91 -> 520]
EUR007 [454 reis91 -> 522]

narref: 6
Chieron [345]
Cliges [383]
Arkasas [393]
drxav [458]
Steed [463]
esemesas [479]

reis91:3
Nautilu [414]
THE_SPLIT [386 GuG -> 493]
aedan777 [391 videonfan -> 494]

tonkatoy5: 2
Eternaly_Lost [388]
Daffius [465]

tamius23: 1
Gen. Skobelev [331]

Falc: 1
jacob-Lundgren [369]

Hax: 1
Teep [374]

Panzer Commander: 1
J. Passepartout [382]

videonfan: 1
tamius23 [384]

Teep: 1
the_hdk [398]

Steed: 1
sbr [418]

not voted: 1
GuG

GuG of worg pack and Ithvan the villager are lynched

Night two:
Falc of dire wolf pack is hunted.




Day two


reis91: 11
johho888 [567]
Arkasas [570]
The Super Pope [568 sexytoes -> 603]
Nautilu [639]
pjnlsn [640 sexytoes -> 642]
sexytoes [644]
Chieron [648]
Daffius [591 Johho888 -> 671]
drxav [679]
aedan777 [682]
Puchas [695]
THE_SPLIT [573 The Super Pope -> 654 Panzer Commander -> 710]


sexytoes: 9
Seamus2008 [554]
narref [563]
Teep [604]
Steed [575 sexytoes/illegal vote ->616]
Gliomarto [601 sexytoes -> 645]
Vainglory [577 Panzer Commander -> 599 The Super Pope -> 649]
Panzer Commander [550 sexytoes ->646 Johho888 -> 660]
Eternaly_Lost [629 THE_SPLIT -> 666]
tamius23 [703]

Panzer Commander: 6
esemesas [608]
videonfan [614]
Cliges [649]
Hax [571 seamus2008 -> 697]
EUR007 [566 reis91 -> 707]
tonkatoy5 [632 EUR007 -> 636 Panzer Commander -> 647 reis91 -> 709]

Johho888: 1
J. Passepartout [600]

EUR007: 1
the_hdk [610]

the_hdk: 1
sbr [583]

Eternaly_Lost: 1
Gen. Skobelev [590]

The Super Pope: 1
Capt. Kiwi [597]

gliomarto: 1
jacob-Lundgren [615]

not voted: 1
reis91 []


reis91, cultist of Timber wolf pack is lynched.

Night 3

There is no hunt.


Day three


esemesas: 17
tamius23 [910]
EUR007 [856 Hax -> 892 THE_SPLIT -> 903 videonfan -> 913]
tonkatoy5 [868 Hax -> 908 seamus 2008 -> 914]
drxav [764 -> 896 affirmative vote -> 915]
Gen. Skobelev [778 Puchas -> 917]
THE_SPLIT [918]
Arkasas [765 seamus2008 -> 919]
Cliges [865 seamus2008 -> 920]
Panzer Commander [792 Puchas ->921]
Chieron [885 seamus2008 -> 924]
Puchas[826 Puchas -> 927]
aedan777 [843 seamus2008 -> 859 Hax -> 933]
Daffius [876 Puchas -> 934]
videonfan [774 EUR007 -> 937]
sbr [979 -> 944]
Hax votes esemesas[946]
sexytoes [948]
Eternaly_Lost [Puchas -> 957]
johho888 [ 866 seamus2008 ->958]

seamus2008: 4
Capt. Kiwi [775]
jacob-Lundgren [785]
The Super Pope [788]
pjnlsn [757 Steed -> 828 Hax ->852]

Hax: 4
J. Passepartout [766]
the_hdk [871]
narref [786]
Vainglory [793]

Puchas: 3
Gliomarto [770 The Super Pope -> 789]
Nautilu [794]
esemesas [853]

Gen. Skobelev: 1
Teep [777]

SBR: 1
Steed [848]

Night four: Eternaly_Lost of the Worg pack was hunted



Day four


EUR007: 19
narref [1139]
Nautilu [1101 Hax -> 1197]
Arkasas [1026 Hax -> 1186 sbr -> 1191 gliomarto -> 1208]
Cliges [991 gliomarto -> 1212]
Hax [994 pjnlsn -> 1202 unvote -> 1213]
drxav [1023 Hax -> 1214]
seamus2008 [1165 gliomarto -> 1214]
Gen. Skobelev [1093 Arkasas -> 1216]
johho888 [1189 gliomarto -> 1217]
tonkatoy5 [1171 Arkasas -> 1218]
Panzer Commander [1175 gliomarto -> 1220]
tamius23 [1221]
THE_SPLIT [974 Hax -> 1222]
aedan777 [1029 gliomarto -> 1223]
Chieron [1142 Hax -> 1224]
Puchas [1201 seamus2008 -> 1226]
Teep [1081 The Super Pope -> 1232]
pjnlsn [1141 Hax -> 1233]
Daffius [1129 Cliges -> 1242]
Steed [1200 Johho888 -> 1252]

Hax: 3
EUR007 [1025]
videonfan [1062]
jacob-Lundgren [1125]

Arkasas: 2
Vainglory [1036 sbr -> 1099]
sbr [1028 Arkasas -> 1151 THE_SPLIT 1181]

seamus2008: 2
The Super Pope [1069]
Gliomarto [1056 EUR007 -> Seamus 2008]

gliomarto: 1
Capt. Kiwi [1092]

Cliges: 1

tamius23: 1
sexytoes [1238]

Illegal vote: 1
J. Passepartout votes Eternaly_Lost [1058]

not voted: 1
the_hdk []


You lynch EUROO7 cultist/plotter turned wolf of the Dire pack.


Night five
There is no hunt.



Day five


Hax: 17
J. Passepartout [1448]
drxav [1455]
tamius23 [1456]
The Super Pope [1401 Panzer Commander -> 1458]
sbr [1348 Arkasas -> 1410 revote -> 1459]
pjnlsn [1304 Gen. Skobelev -> 1460]
narref [1293 THE_SPLIT -> 1461]
Cliges [1454 THE_SPLIT -> 1462]
johho888 [1301 Teep -> 1463]
seamus2008 [1423 Arkasas -> 1464]
sexytoes [1431 THE_SPLIT -> 1466]
tonkatoy5 [1334 jacob-Lundgren -> 1467]
Capt. Kiwi [1384 Teep -> 1392 Arkasas -> 1469]
Daffius [1410 Arkasas -> 1471]
aedan777 [1351 gliomarto -> 1472]
Panzer Commander [1376 Daffius -> 1444 Arkasas -> 1473]
Teep [1361 THE_SPLIT -> 1475]

Arkasas: 4
Gen. Skobelev [1373]
THE_SPLIT [1315 cliges -> 1400]
Chieron [1437]
Steed [1309 tonkatoy5 -> 1449 Arkasas]

Teep: 3
jacob-Lundgren [1399]
Nautilu [1409]
videonfan [1371 THE_SPLIT -> 1424]

sexytoes: 3
Vainglory [1342]
the_hdk [1380 THE_SPLIT -> 1397]
gliomarto [1415 Cliges -> 1428]

THE_SPLIT: 2
Arkasas [1395]
Hax [1416]

seamus2008: 1
Puchas [1381]

Hax, was a former Cultist, turned Werewolf of the Dire Pack with a Distiller Trait.

Night six
THE_SPLIT villager is killed



Day six


Arkasas: 9
Gen. Skobelev [1657]
pjnlsn [1665]
Vainglory [1686]
Cliges [1691]
tonkatoy5 [1704]
sexytoes [1711]
sbr [1717]
Panzer Commander [1725]
johho888 [1668 sexytoes -> 1732]

sexytoes: 5
videonfan [1638]
J. Passepartout [1673]
seamus2008 [1680]
The Super Pope [1693]
Arkasas [1720]

gliomarto: 5
aedan777 [1658]
jacob-Lundgren [1677]
Chieron [1683]
drxav [1708 Arkasas ->1709 Cliges -> 1712]
Ithvan [1688 jacob-Lundgren -> 1714]

Cliges: 4
Nautilu [1647]
Capt. Kiwi [1667]
Daffius [1697]
narref [1718]

Daffius: 2
Teep [1676]
Puchas [1727]

Aedan777: 1
the_hdk [1666]

Chieron: 1
gliomarto [1670]

sbr: 1
tamius23 [1696]

not voted: 0

Arkasas the Padre was lynched


Night seven

Puchas the villager was killed
 

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A colored vote count on the post-outings is kind of useless
 

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Of course I cannot update the first page for you, any ideas or you ok to sort it yourselfs?
 

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Of course I cannot update the first page for you, any ideas or you ok to sort it yourselfs?

Can a mod (jacob) copy/paste the first 2 posts to Steed's first post in the thread, then leave a link to that post in SoL's first post of the thread?
 

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Can a mod (jacob) copy/paste the first 2 posts to Steed's first post in the thread, then leave a link to that post in SoL's first post of the thread?
sure