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It is quite worrying how many we have opposing allowing Hindenburg, who is our democratically elected leader, the right to propose- not create, but propose- a new constitution to us, especially when a number of them believe in democracy and everything entailed with it. It appears they only want to support democracy when it suits them. This is a perfect example of the weakness this Republic holds.
It's undemocratic to allow people to propose new laws and have parliament vote on them. :huh:
Hindenburg may have been democratically elected by parliament, but by no means was he elected by the people.
After a tense finale in which the last handful of votes constantly changed the final result (particularly the referendum!) the final results are in.
Total Vote: 49 (-1)
SED: 14
DZP M: 13
DNVP: 10
DAP: 4
FVP: 3
DDP: 3
DZP R: 2
Referendum (48 votes)
Yes: 24
No: 24
SO, we have a tie in the referendum (that one person who never cast a vote could have had the power to break the tie), but an Anti-Republican majority in the Reichstag which is divided amongst various factions with political visions noticeably at odds with one another.
Total Vote: 49 (-1)
SED: 14
DZP M: 13
DNVP: 10
DAP: 4
FVP: 3
DDP: 3
DZP R: 2
Referendum (48 votes)
Yes: 24
No: 24
SO, we have a tie in the referendum (that one person who never cast a vote could have had the power to break the tie), but an Anti-Republican majority in the Reichstag which is divided amongst various factions with political visions noticeably at odds with one another.
Perhaps the vile republic will fall, and our glorified empire will rise once again? Like when it did when we won against the vile austrian dogs. Why this is a possibility for me to be given my manor back! Sasha!? SASHA! Pack my things! Why?! Don't ask me why, or I'll show you what happened to your predecessor you imbecile!
The Election of 1920
No election, perhaps since 1898, was to carry so much weight as the election of 1920. With President Hindenburg’s election in 1919 ushering in a constitutional crisis over the fate of the Republic a resurgent Anti-Republican movement sought to bring it down once and for all.
The first aspect of the election of 1920 was a referendum asking whether President Hindenburg should be granted unlimited powers to propose a new constitution to the Reichstag. The results were so close that it was possible that the Yes and No vote were separated by less than a thousand votes. Such was the closeness of the referendum that it would take weeks before either side could definitively be declared the victor – causing endless frustration for both the Left and Right.
The outcome of the legislative election was not altogether clearer. Three dominant parties emerged from the election with the SED, the DZP M and the DNVP claiming around 3/4s of the vote, leaving scraps to the smaller parties. Although the Socialists registered strong gains, this at the expense of their political allies, the election produced the striking collapse of non-Socialist Republican vote. As the DDP sank yet further into the depths of inconsequentiality, the Republican Centrists, always the poorer relation in the DZP split, lost almost half of their remaining seats to become the smallest party in the Reichstag. But the greatest humiliation was reserved for the once mighty Free People’s Party, which for two decades had dominated the Weimar Republic, the party losing a full 2/3s of its vote and finishing with less Reichstag deputies than the DAP. Although the Fascists did suffer notable losses in their worst ever election result, 1920 marked the triumph of the right. Despite the emergence of a competitor monarchist party in the form of the Monarcho-Centrists, the DNVP held strong managing to avoid losing a single seat. The greatest victory of the election, of course, was reserved for the Habsburg revivalist Monarchist wing of the old Centre Party. With the party building up fearsome momentum during the election campaign, finishing with only marginally fewer seats than the Socialists as it secured over ¼ of the vote – the best result for a Centrist party (including the FVP) since 1893.
Just as the referendum had remained on a knife-edge, the Reichstag was precariously balanced. The Republican movement, far more ideologically and organisationally coherent than the opposing movement, had clearly been defeated with all Republican parties combined securing just 230 seats, 200 if the DDP is excluded. On the other hand, the Right was divided between the Constitutional Monarchists of the DZP M, the Authoritarian-Prussian Monarchists of the DNVP and the outright Fascists of the DAP.
The power, as ever, lay with the leading inheritor of the legacy of the Centre Party. Papen was presented with two viable coalitions. If he wished to attempt to reign in the power of the DNVP, the Prussian officer core and President Hindenburg then an alliance with the DDP would be advisable – however this would mean that the Republic’s continued existence would have to be accepted. On the other hand, Papen could welcome the Fascists into government and attempt to control the feral beast that was German Fascism whilst at the same time being in a noticeably weaker position in relation to the Prussian-Authoritarian element of his alliance. However, under such a regime, the Republic was surely doomed. With both the risks and potential rewards of a strong Anti-Republican coalition being greater, Papen was willing to gamble upon his own political powers.
With the referendum result still inconclusive President Hindenburg appointed Franz von Papen as Chancellor – governing through a coalition consisting of the DZP M, DNVP and DAP. The fall of the Weimar Republic seemed certain.
Looks like a stalemate. Prussian party won't accept Habsburg, vice versa, and republicans won't accept any emperor.
This election proved to illustrate everything I hoped it would: a popular endorssement of constitutional monarchy and a resounding defeat for von Hindenburg.
Prepare for Tannenberg, Herr Tanzhang, his finest hour yet comes.
I do not see the problem. There is a opposition against decent racist-elitist (except DAP, they're just racist.) organizations in this country!Yeah, but they are in government with the DVNP and DAP
I hereby present to you:
The economy of the future is not a weak, vulnerable free trade economy, as it is not a stagnatic, slow socialist one. The economy of the future is a combination, a synthesis, a corporatist economy. It is anti-individualistic, aswell as anti-egalitarian, it is beyond Left and Right.
The economy of the future is controlled by para-syndicalist trade unions with representatives from both workers and employers. Trade unions decide the exchange of goods and commodities in the National Labor Exchange and run the industry through co-operative labor confederates and mutual aid.
In the countryside, however, the production is organized through agricultural unions with representatives from both the farmers/laborers and local aristocrats.
People are more likely to work harder and with greater commitement if they themselves possess the land on which they labor, therefore it is beneficial to keep the system of small landowners, but organize them into smaller village unions, with representatives in bigger agricultural unions mentioned before.
The economy is therefore still be based on private property and initiative, but the State is be able to properly represent the rights of the working class and be allowed to exert a strong infulence over the production and allocation of resources, welding the whole society into a strong corporate state, creating through integration and unity an unbeatable force.
Reichstag will continue to operate as before, but also have a number of representatives from various labor unions and is led by a strong Kaiser with rights to veto any law presented by the parliament. Kaiser also has the right and privilege to appoint the new prime minister, who, in turn, would appoint the rest of the cabinet.
Germany is a great land with abundance of many resources, however, some are still to this very day available only through trade. This needs to change. To combat this problem, Germany needs to increase the size and amount of its colonial possessions to provide the rare resources for its industry.
Long live the Integralist German Reich!
Long live the unity, the collaboration between the aristocrat and the worker!
Signed,
Von Contravarius
((As this is the first version, a beta, if you will, all of the above is of course debatable by any paper hat or anybody else willing to become one and looking for a common ground.))
Also, I personally am optimistic about our future cooperation in the von Papen coalition, and am willing to make compromises for a common good. I believe that the first draft of the Manifesto can properly prove that.
The First Integralist-Paperhatist Manifesto ((0.5))
The economy of the future is not a weak, vulnerable free trade economy, as it is not a stagnatic, slow socialist one. The economy of the future is a combination, a synthesis, a corporatist economy. It is anti-individualistic, aswell as anti-egalitarian, it is beyond Left and Right.
The economy of the future is controlled by para-syndicalist trade unions with representatives from both workers and employers. Trade unions decide the exchange of goods and commodities in the National Labor Exchange and run the industry through co-operative labor confederates and mutual aid.
In the countryside, however, the production is organized through agricultural unions with representatives from both the farmers/laborers and local aristocrats.
People are more likely to work harder and with greater commitement if they themselves possess the land on which they labor, therefore it is beneficial to keep the system of small landowners, but organize them into smaller village unions, with representatives in bigger agricultural unions mentioned before.
The economy is therefore still be based on private property and initiative, but the State is be able to properly represent the rights of the working class and be allowed to exert a strong infulence over the production and allocation of resources, welding the whole society into a strong corporate state, creating through integration and unity an unbeatable force.
Reichstag will continue to operate as before, but also have a number of representatives from various labor unions and is led by a strong Kaiser with rights to veto any law presented by the parliament. Kaiser also has the right and privilege to appoint the new prime minister, who, in turn, would appoint the rest of the cabinet.
Germany is a great land with abundance of many resources, however, some are still to this very day available only through trade. This needs to change. To combat this problem, Germany needs to increase the size and amount of its colonial possessions to provide the rare resources for its industry.
Long live the Integralist German Reich!
Long live the unity, the collaboration between the aristocrat and the worker!
Signed,
Von Contravarius
((As this is the first version, a beta, if you will, all of the above is of course debatable by any paper hat or anybody else willing to become one and looking for a common ground.))
Also, I personally am optimistic about our future cooperation in the von Papen coalition, and am willing to make compromises for a common good. I believe that the first draft of the Manifesto can properly prove that.
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Sound very much like cooperative socialism/communism and syndicalism Oh fascism is just another branch of socialism!
And what about the other opinions like racism, anti-semitism etc?
Oh fascism is just another branch of socialism!And what about the other opinions like racism, anti-semitism etc?