• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

ThaHoward

Field Marshal
41 Badges
Sep 8, 2013
4.437
1.609
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury Pre-order
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
Exactly. Zentrum represent the political centre: any party to left or right of Zentrum is extremist. Economically speaking, the FVP is to the right of Zentrum whereas the DDP are well to the right of Zentrum.



Which you yourself admitted were beneficial to the economy as they encourage the unemployed and the retired to contribute to it in lieu of employment. :)



You do not know what a free market is if you honestly think that. Protectionism is the antithesis of a free market. Protectionism + Interventionism =/= free market. The FVP are much, much more economically liberal than either party.

((No economical speaking: Far left: SED. Left: DAP. Moderate/center Left: FVP. Moderate right or center right: DVNP and DZP. Far right: DDP. And former KPD would be extreme left, and an anarcho capitalist/liberal party would be the extreme right.

And. I never claimed that either of these want a free-market. The only party that is pro free-market ks the DDP as we can see, they want to roll back regulations, end all state subsidues, have free trade and with the ingame laissez-faire it have an abstracted model to show that it is no regulations (minus the ones the player have not made in forms of minimum wage, maximum work hours and safety regulations) as it have no investment penalty whatsoever for capitalists and even a higher production bonus (or througput, can't remember) whereas with interventionism that 5% bonus to productivity is removed and knvestments are 66% higher for capitalists to simulate the abstracted forms of regulations.

Different forms of social reforms. Minimum wage, safety regulations and maximum work hours are regulations of the economy.

Yes protectionism is the anti-thesis of free trade, just lile central planning and an active state hand is the anti-thesis of a free internal market. The last two ate carried out by the FVP in a very large degree. To say otherwise is simply wrong. But the DVNP, DZP and FVP are market orientated economies, but they want to regulate it and have centralized planning in forms of regulating the economy. And for what we've seen in every gameplay-post and election post, the FVP want the tighest control. Tommy himself even said that the DVNP became much more free-market orientated.

And the DZP, FVP and DVNP all have a market orientated economy, but they have different degrees of regulations and central planning. The DVNP sure do have small tarrifs, but they support a minimal intereference in the economy, and the DZP are a light version of the FVP, whilst the FVP quite obviously encourage a strong state to regulate the market. Any economist or economy student (even just folks interested in it) would see this.))
 

ThaHoward

Field Marshal
41 Badges
Sep 8, 2013
4.437
1.609
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury Pre-order
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
*throws his paper hat in the air*

All this talk of liberalism makes me want to shoot someone, preferably a minority, although, recent events have made my lust for Austrian blood grow aswell.
DZP setting up a non-Hohenzollern constitutional monarchy is not a option which leads to further stability, also, this will not make me cancel my plans to charge the Reichstag, though, I guess I will have to postpone them, now, that herr Lobenswert got shot.
Goddamn polish jews.
Or... Well... Jews in general.

What will you do when I'm deported? I'm going to miss you, even if because of your clear negative sides as fashion choice and political views I'll miss you my dear :(

((But since I already listed the economic left right, why not the others?

Social reforms (left=progressive and right=conservative): Far left: SED. Left: DAP and FVP (more moderate). Center: DZP and DVNP. Right/far right: DDP.

Individual rights/freedoms (libertarian vs authorian) left being libertarian scale and right being authorian scale: (Far) Left: DDP, SED (maybe far left cos of secularization) and FVP. Moderate left: DZP (R). Center-center right: DZP (M). (Hard) Right: DVNP. Far right: DAP.

Centralism/statism vs. individualism, left being individualism and right being centralism/statism: Far left: DDP. Center-left: FVP. Center: DZP (R). Center-right: DZP (M)(Moderate) Right: SED. Far right: DVNP and DAP.

At least what I think :p ))
 
Last edited:

unmerged(211960)

Corporal-Private
6 Badges
Jun 21, 2010
324
0
  • Hearts of Iron Anthology
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
*throws his paper hat in the air*

All this talk of liberalism makes me want to shoot someone, preferably a minority, although, recent events have made my lust for Austrian blood grow aswell.
DZP setting up a non-Hohenzollern constitutional monarchy is not a option which leads to further stability, also, this will not make me cancel my plans to charge the Reichstag, though, I guess I will have to postpone them, now, that herr Lobenswert got shot.
Goddamn polish jews.


Or... Well... Jews in general.
Yes, I'll have to make something up to explain this in the Morn. Expect failed attempts at seducing of manservant, alcoholism, racism and much much more!
 

DensleyBlair

Yma o hyd, o hyd (they/them)
39 Badges
Jul 29, 2012
11.312
3.440
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Sengoku
  • Semper Fi
  • March of the Eagles
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Darkest Hour
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Cities: Skylines
(("The First Law of Densley: namely, that 95% of the entire collective knowledge of mankind, no matter how arcane or seemingly unrelated to the fictional world of Blackadder it may first appear at first glance, can in fact be construed to be a hidden Blackadder reference if one is in possession of enough time and imagination". ;)))

561f73e34d18667bf69a486001c3e662_zps4acc9c7e.jpg
 

Contravarius

General
79 Badges
Nov 1, 2013
1.733
75
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Surviving Mars
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Crusader Kings Complete
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Tyranny: Gold Edition
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Cities: Skylines Industries
  • Tyranny - Bastards Wound
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Tyranny - Tales from the Tiers
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • March of the Eagles
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria 2
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
What will you do when I'm deported? I'm going to miss you, even if because of your clear negative sides as fashion choice and political views I'll miss you my dear :(
*von Contravarius winces, he's face grows pale, he's clearly trying to keep his cool, after a few seconds he manages to summon a cruel grin on his face*
"Phah, miss me, will you, you jewish wh... Whoa..."
*He swallows loudly, stands up and walks out of the room*

((Phah, thanks for making this awkward moment possible.))
 

Dadarian

King of Queen's
75 Badges
Mar 4, 2011
5.021
350
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Sengoku
  • Semper Fi
  • Rome Gold
  • Penumbra - Black Plague
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • BATTLETECH
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Surviving Mars
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • BATTLETECH: Flashpoint
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria 2
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong
  • War of the Roses
  • 500k Club
((I'd say do one for the DZP, but that requires democracy and democracy is against God's Will :p))
 

Khalep

Major
55 Badges
Jun 26, 2007
737
4
  • 200k Club
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • For The Glory
  • Darkest Hour
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Divine Wind
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
(("The First Law of Densley: namely, that 95% of the entire collective knowledge of mankind, no matter how arcane or seemingly unrelated to the fictional world of Blackadder it may first appear at first glance, can in fact be construed to be a hidden Blackadder reference if one is in possession of enough time and imagination". ;)))

561f73e34d18667bf69a486001c3e662_zps4acc9c7e.jpg

So true!

Economic heretic extremist radicals the lot of them!
 

Dadarian

King of Queen's
75 Badges
Mar 4, 2011
5.021
350
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Sengoku
  • Semper Fi
  • Rome Gold
  • Penumbra - Black Plague
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • BATTLETECH
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Surviving Mars
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • BATTLETECH: Flashpoint
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria 2
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong
  • War of the Roses
  • 500k Club
So true!

Economic heretic extremist radicals the lot of them!

DDP, nothing but Godless bankers and heretic anarchists the lot of em.
 

Scrapknight

Consul of Baekdu
16 Badges
Mar 13, 2012
1.366
109
  • Darkest Hour
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Magicka
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
The DDP may be zealots, but at least they're republican zealots. Can't we put aside our differences for now and focus on keeping out the hated monarchy that drove our great nation to ruin?

Under the Republic, Germany has gone from strength to strength and built herself up. Under the Kaiser, she fell spectacularly and turned the whole world against her. Can you not see this? Do you want a successful, strong and responsible Germany, or one with delusions of grandeur that is bound to drag us into another Great War? If the former, vote for the SED, FVP DDP, or DZP-R and save our country!
 

unmerged(211960)

Corporal-Private
6 Badges
Jun 21, 2010
324
0
  • Hearts of Iron Anthology
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
Would it not be funny if someone voted SED and the yes to Hindenburg? That would be like me going to a poor-house! Just the idea is laughable! I mean, poor people are meant to be abused and beaten, like they always has been! Not helped and nourished.
 

ThaHoward

Field Marshal
41 Badges
Sep 8, 2013
4.437
1.609
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury Pre-order
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
So true!

Economic heretic extremist radicals the lot of them!

Economic liberty is only the last barrier before a free society :) We already have freedom of religion, freedom of speech, political freedom, democracy, freedom of association and organization and much more in place. A free-market and strong property rights are the only thing away, and of course secularization, but unfortunately DDP doesn't support that now.

And we are staunch protectors of the liberties, we will not let them be cast back and let us fall into a dictatorship or autharian monarchy. So until now preserving democracy and a free society is more more important than a free-market.
 

Contravarius

General
79 Badges
Nov 1, 2013
1.733
75
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Surviving Mars
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Crusader Kings Complete
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Tyranny: Gold Edition
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Cities: Skylines Industries
  • Tyranny - Bastards Wound
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Tyranny - Tales from the Tiers
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • March of the Eagles
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria 2
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
Would it not be funny if someone voted SED and the yes to Hindenburg? That would be like me going to a poor-house! Just the idea is laughable! I mean, poor people are meant to be abused and beaten, like they always has been! Not helped and nourished.
I'm happy to see that you are getting better, old friend. A man can't truly be dying, if he's shouting loudly about beating poor people.
 

Khalep

Major
55 Badges
Jun 26, 2007
737
4
  • 200k Club
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • For The Glory
  • Darkest Hour
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Divine Wind
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
Economic liberty is only the last barrier before a free society :) We already have freedom of religion, freedom of speech, political freedom, democracy, freedom of association and organization and much more in place. A free-market and strong property rights are the only thing away, and of course secularization, but unfortunately DDP doesn't support that now.

Let me just quote the good Herr Densley: "Gaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!"
 

Dadarian

King of Queen's
75 Badges
Mar 4, 2011
5.021
350
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Sengoku
  • Semper Fi
  • Rome Gold
  • Penumbra - Black Plague
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • BATTLETECH
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Surviving Mars
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • BATTLETECH: Flashpoint
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria 2
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong
  • War of the Roses
  • 500k Club
Economic liberty is only the last barrier before a free society :) We already have freedom of religion, freedom of speech, political freedom, democracy, freedom of association and organization and much more in place. A free-market and strong property rights are the only thing away, and of course secularization, but unfortunately DDP doesn't support that now.

And we are staunch protectors of the liberties, we will not let them be cast back and let us fall into a dictatorship or autharian monarchy. So until now preserving democracy and a free society is more more important than a free-market.

Witch, witch! The only freedom you need is the freedom to give yourself entirely to God. All others are trickery of the Devil himself.
 

ThaHoward

Field Marshal
41 Badges
Sep 8, 2013
4.437
1.609
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury Pre-order
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
The DDP may be zealots, but at least they're republican zealots. Can't we put aside our differences for now and focus on keeping out the hated monarchy that drove our great nation to ruin?

Under the Republic, Germany has gone from strength to strength and built herself up. Under the Kaiser, she fell spectacularly and turned the whole world against her. Can you not see this? Do you want a successful, strong and responsible Germany, or one with delusions of grandeur that is bound to drag us into another Great War? If the former, vote for the SED, FVP DDP, or DZP-R and save our country!

I fully agree with this. I even proposed to cooperate with the FVP, DZP and relucantly SED so we might not fall under a dictatorship. But the others seem to still antagonize us.. But I am glad it is others here who can see our liberal and democrtic values. We are for liberty, freedom and a democracy. A free-market for us is only the last step to a free society.

In the face of threats from the right and left, from the fascists and monarchists and the international communists, stay on the middle ground. Vote DDP.

german_dem_poster.jpg
 

Terraferma

General
49 Badges
Nov 15, 2005
2.185
16
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • BATTLETECH
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Tyranny - Tales from the Tiers
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
I fully agree with this. I even proposed to cooperate with the FVP, DZP and relucantly SED so we might not fall under a dictatorship. But the others seem to still antagonize us.. But I am glad it is others here who can see our liberal and democrtic values. We are for liberty, freedom and a democracy. A free-market for us is only the last step to a free society.

Only problem I have with that particular party is the idea, especially NOW, of trying to roll back social reform. Other than that they are dandy.
 

Khalep

Major
55 Badges
Jun 26, 2007
737
4
  • 200k Club
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • For The Glory
  • Darkest Hour
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Divine Wind
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
I fully agree with this. I even proposed to cooperate with the FVP, DZP and relucantly SED so we might not fall under a dictatorship. But the others seem to still antagonize us.. But I am glad it is others here who can see our liberal and democrtic values. We are for liberty, freedom and a democracy. A free-market for us is only the last step to a free society.

Your capability for believing that it is others who have caused the present antagony and distance between the DDP and all other parties is quite astonishing.
You, who have helped this right-wing, anti-republican government to power and forced our hand. Truly astonishing.