Welcome back! What is the succession plan for the Byzantine Empire? Thank you
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Thanks!Good to see the return of the AAR.
All these thoughts were in Toste's evil mind.Prince Alfr was a dutiful and good commander and he will be missed, though theres one less claimnant.
You will not have long to wait in that regard - though 'best laid plans' etc ...Denmark gaining all those lands in Hungary/Bulgaria is an annoyance, I wonder if future and less content rulers will ''tolerate'' the border gore.
Learned something new today.
Thanks! Oh, there just seem to be endless Makedons that arise to take over, as there have been all game. Were you interested in something specific?Welcome back! What is the succession plan for the Byzantine Empire? Thank you
Thanks! We're waiting for Mongol and Aztec invasions to provide the next real challenge. Or maybe another GHW down the track.welcome back! and what an unstoppable empire!
I’ll check back at some point to confirm, but it seems to be standard primo, with children inheriting, unless there’s a civil war loss, usurpation etc. the Makedon dynasty has been in power since the game began back in 867.Both Byz and HRE got new election systems in Holy Fury, since I never played pre Holy Fury. I was wondering aboutthe old systems. Currently children do not seem to inherit and dynasties change fairly frequently as emperor. Thanks if you get a chance
I didn't know about this Lovecraftian event chain! Sounds awesome!This strange adventure related by Toste related instead to some ancient cult, and a legendary encounter with some Old God of the deeps.
THIS!Toste hoped she might be induced to bring Denmark into the Empire as a vassal kingdom if the claim succeeded. And he had been getting a little bored with raiding. The previous work on the Council bore fruit when he was able to persuade a narrow approval for a declaration of war with his casting vote in December 1119.
Oh man this realm really needs better lawyers!Rögnfrið won her claim and was immensely grateful to her benefactor. But once more, a Russian Emperor had not fully grasped the small print and circumstances of a war’s terms. It was Rögnfrið’s husband, his half-brother Hemming, who was the dynasty member, not the new Queen herself!
My favorite event chain. Always fun to kill a Cthulian god.This strange adventure related by Toste related instead to some ancient cult, and a legendary encounter with some Old God of the deeps.
A legend ends at last! Most Norse probably have some respect for him, due to his military abilities. Toste, of course, doesn't care about that.Far more significantly, Theophylaktos was captured! After all this time, their battlefield nemesis was removed from the board. The legendary figure was sent back to the capital in chains: only the Emperor could decide his fate, of course.
Hrane better be careful. He's playing with fire where Toste is concerned.Basic inquiries soon revealed it was none other than his Hel Brother Hrane – who turned out to be a pox-ridden cocksman! Toste tolerated this lapse (given his own many and grievous sins) but didn’t like it. And soon after took the chance to force Hrane into the war as some small penance.
At least her kids are dynasty members (if I'm reading that right). You just need a few generations and some Habsburg-level tactics to get the kingdom.Rögnfrið won her claim and was immensely grateful to her benefactor. But once more, a Russian Emperor had not fully grasped the small print and circumstances of a war’s terms. It was Rögnfrið’s husband, his half-brother Hemming, who was the dynasty member, not the new Queen herself!
Nor I (this still being my first and only CK game so far), in game or in AARs I've read (that I can recall). Haven't read Lovecraft but respect his reputation. I should one day!I didn't know about this Lovecraftian event chain! Sounds awesome!
THIS!
Yes, or a more experienced playerOh man this realm really needs better lawyers!
This was great for me as an in-game experience as I hadn't seen it before and didn't know how it would play out. I was tempted to have Toste sacrifice himself when given the choice, but it would have been a bit out of character and the heir was still a minor and I didn't want even a short regency.My favorite event chain. Always fun to kill a Cthulian god.
Absolutely right. I almost made the call to just keep him in prison, but Toste just glared and grinned madly (simultaneously) and over-ruled such lily-livered softness.A legend ends at last! Most Norse probably have some respect for him, due to his military abilities. Toste, of course, doesn't care about that.
Oh yes. Being a friend and Hel-Brother may not be enough to save him from this Crowned Monster.Hrane better be careful. He's playing with fire where Toste is concerned.
Yes I believe they are. We'll see if that opens up any possibilities later.At least her kids are dynasty members (if I'm reading that right). You just need a few generations and some Habsburg-level tactics to get the kingdom.
Thank you! The Cthulu event was novel for me a good fun to play through. And a great reward for surviving, well in keeping with his dark leanings.Welcome back again, @Bullfilter .
Good to see the latest details of the Tosspot Fylkir's rule. So guessing Toste's touch of insanity got the better of him to get the Cthulhu event. Of course, this version of a dark fylkir would defeat this incredible supernatural beast.
He has just one enemy in this world who is his equal: himself! Who will win that contest?Toste seems invincible.
Yes, I just didn't read the fine print properly (yet again, being a novice player despite the length of this AAR); and wanted a nice little war without pact consequences as a bit of a diversion.Can't believe the Danes missed getting swallowed up by the empire through a legal technicality. Those crafty Danes.
Many thanks!Also, sending you belated congratulations. You were traveling when the second quarter ACAs were awarded. Good to see this AAR "Blood and Empire: A Clash of Civilisations" named as one of the Quarter 2 2023 second place winners of the AARland Choice Awards (ACAs) in the CK II category. (As tallied and officially declared here by @Nikolai .) Well done!
Oh yes. And, as you might expect, it's not likely to get any better ...Toste has fallen far into depravity. Sacrificing humans to Hel? And not to Odin? With no formal ritual? How shameful!
Agreed. He has become really a nasty piece of work. A monster indeed.Good job to the Danes on avoiding being annexed by such a horrid man.
Yes, and in keeping with his larger-than-death persona! As for killing, there are plenty in this world he'd like to work through first.Credit where it's due, though: defeating Cthulhu was a good move. I suppose even Hel doesn't want to rule in a world where the Old Ones are awake. On the other hand, will this inflate Toste's ego enough to attempt to overthrow Hel? He is a godkiller now...
This is how a legend grows. Rumors and gossip are probably feeding Toste's ego more than any actual deeds he's done. It's just that no one is brave enough to oust the Fylkir, semi-divine, Emperor as a corrupt Hel worshipper.He may not have been publicly branded as a demon worshipper but was now considered a ‘depraved manipulator’
A military mind is just what the Byzantines need when surrounded by enemies. And there are plenty heirs of Makedon blood to spare.In Constantinople, the young Basileus Alexandros II had just come of age and he seemed to be a highly skilled general with a rebuilding army. But had no wife yet and was definitely not a ladies’ man.
If the vassals banded together against Toste it would be a bloody affair.These days, Refr alone was as powerful as many of the world’s remaining empires but it would be interesting to see how he could win this war with a large Tulunid army in the vicinity.
How does the realm eve function with such a psychopath at the helm?When informed the King had evaded capture and rebelled, Toste merely cackled maniacally and voiced to Eirikr the hope that Kolbjörn would give ‘good sport’ when captured. This earned him more than one sideways glance in the army’s camp, but none said anything more about it.
So the Rurikids are the last of the original viking dynasties ruling then?Ale av Herjedalen won a claim war to remove the long-ruling Hvitserk dynasty from the throne.
Folly or foaly ?Courtiers just shook their heads (quietly and carefully) when informed of this latest Imperial folly.
What more can he do? The world had better hope he doesn't end up in charge of the followers of Hel.Yet even with this inglorious outrage, Toste had yet to reach the bottom of his personal barrel of rottenness.
Thanks for explaining to some extent that King Kolbjörn had holdings extensively outside of Irland, especially in what is usually northern Italy. Having joined this AAR in progress some months ago, perhaps I missed how that happened. These updates clarified that for me.Next, in perhaps the most egregious episode of Toste’s reign so far, the increasingly rabid Emperor accepted a secret mission from the Trollmaðr to capture and sacrifice a ruler to Hel. Even with only a minuscule chance of success [because I accidentally clicked the ‘do it’ button before I could send the Marshal there to help] Toste tried to jail his most hostile major vassal engaged in an indictable plot, King Kolbjörn of Irland, on 7 January 1123.
Good to see Glitterhoof show up in your game. Will the Dark Gray Fylkir try to recruit the horse to the cause of Hel? (Nice graphic addition to Glitterhoof's "house.")It was at this point that Toste began to really start sinking into the depths of madness. Having only recently appointed King Kolbjörn of Sviþjod to win him over, he badly offended one of his two most powerful magnates by firing him for an … unusual … appointee as Chancellor.
Well, looking forward, somewhat, to what depths the fylkir will sink to next time, but I'm hanging on to see if he gets his just deserts or continues down his evil path of destruction unpunished.Yet even with this inglorious outrage, Toste had yet to reach the bottom of his personal barrel of rottenness.
It was at this point that Toste began to really start sinking into the depths of madness. Having only recently appointed King Kolbjörn of Sviþjod to win him over, he badly offended one of his two most powerful magnates by firing him for an … unusual … appointee as Chancellor.
Yet even with this inglorious outrage, Toste had yet to reach the bottom of his personal barrel of rottenness.
I think this is a good way to look at it. We have an insider's view: the vassals and more general populace only see the tip of the iceberg, and that mostly as spun by the autocrat ruling the largest empire TTL has ever seen.This is how a legend grows. Rumors and gossip are probably feeding Toste's ego more than any actual deeds he's done. It's just that no one is brave enough to oust the Fylkir, semi-divine, Emperor as a corrupt Hel worshipper.
Yes, they need one such, but it is their misfortune to now be pitted directly against the Norse Russians after what had been many decades of grudging neutrality (other than the ubiquitous raiding, or course).A military mind is just what the Byzantines need when surrounded by enemies. And there are plenty heirs of Makedon blood to spare.
Oh it would, but they've never shown any real desire or ability to do so. They've been happy to do it to each other though. Which successive emperors (good, evil and indifferent) have generally been quite happy to sit and watch.If the vassals banded together against Toste it would be a bloody affair.
It is so vast I think it mainly administers itself. And because Hel worshippers try to keep things secret, only some of the evil madness seeps through into the public domain. But here, Toste is getting more publicly egregious than most!How does the realm eve function with such a psychopath at the helm?
This may well be the case as most of the others seem to have suffered coups etc along the way.So the Rurikids are the last of the original viking dynasties ruling then?
Boom-tish!Folly or foaly ?
Oh, just wait and seeWhat more can he do? The world had better hope he doesn't end up in charge of the followers of Hel.
Thank you! One thing the Hel sub-plot does is certainly ramp up events to a (literally) insane level.Interesting as always. So much going on!
Thanks for explaining to some extent that King Kolbjörn had holdings extensively outside of Irland, especially in what is usually northern Italy. Having joined this AAR in progress some months ago, perhaps I missed how that happened. These updates clarified that for me.
Yes, IIRC that dynasty started off in southern Russia, added other counties along the way and then raid-conquered some counties in Irland many years back now. They eventually conquered enough to form that kingdom and took its name. That was followed by a few conquests on the north-eastern Adriatic shore, then an expansion into Italy that then became the actual seat of the Kingdom of Irland. A really diverse set of territories.How did Irland get those territories in Italy anyway?
I'll bet we're neither the first nor last to do that!Can't say how many times late at night I've clicked the wrong button on this game, but my philosophy is to live with the results, just like you.
Yes - but can that be the worse than the pursuit?In the end the Dark Gray Tosspot Fylkir got what he desired.
Oh, just wait and see (and I note the session that the next chapter covers was already played and image-edited when this one went up).Good to see Glitterhoof show up in your game. Will the Dark Gray Fylkir try to recruit the horse to the cause of Hel? (Nice graphic addition to Glitterhoof's "house.")
You will soon find out ...Well, looking forward, somewhat, to what depths the fylkir will sink to next time, but I'm hanging on to see if he gets his just deserts or continues down his evil path of destruction unpunished.
Yes, a foul-smelly, oily black.If Toste was ever "Dark Gray", he's definitely Black now.
I won't spoil too much but the next chapter, which follows shortly, will provide the answers you seek.Will we see a power struggle within the Fellowship of Hel after the current leader dies? Toste wants to lead, but even Hel worshippers have to have a limit as to what depths of madness they can tolerate, right?
Yes, I was thinking just that (as no doubt the devs were when they included this event). Caligula is I think an appropriate comparison here.Speaking of which, Toste's fully channeling Caligula here - he even has his own horse advisor!
A race to see whether he destroys himself or the empire first? The answer coming soon to an AAR viewing device near youToste might be the only thing capable of destroying the Russian Empire now. If he angers enough of his vassals to have to deal with a large revolt and declares war on enough realms to trigger the defensive pacts... things could get ugly. He is insane, after all.
No worries. I thought that donkey symbol was quite amusing in the context. And in this case, Glitterhoof is a 'she'. This becomes an important consideration later ... Yes, S&C is becoming the latest conquest powerhouse of the big magnates, being in a good position for further expansion to the south.Thank you for checking out Byz succession. You are my source for pre Holy Fury. Both Byz and HRE got new election methods. Byz election instead of primo, just adds more chaos. Glitterhoof is very offended that he was given the donkey trait. S&C is doing a good job in north Africa, Byz in there as well. Thanks
Down down, deeper down!
he's going down faster than I imagined!