Bizarre idea: WIth US...

[Palmerdale]

I was thinking of starting a game with the US and seeing what would happen if I started invading South American countries. The Monroe Doctrine thing wouldn't stop me, but would it default to the Allied countries declaring war on the US? It should be easy enough to build up enough to provide sufficient defense against the Japanese forces, and bypass the 'near Allies' of Canada and Mexico. I don't think I've ever seen any South American country join any faction.

Has anyone tried this? How did the AI react?

 

[warith1000]

I was thinking of starting a game with the US and seeing what would happen if I started invading South American countries. The Monroe Doctrine thing wouldn't stop me, but would it default to the Allied countries declaring war on the US? It should be easy enough to build up enough to provide sufficient defense against the Japanese forces, and bypass the 'near Allies' of Canada and Mexico. I don't think I've ever seen any South American country join any faction.

Has anyone tried this? How did the AI react?

First off you can't just declare war on them (democratic AND isolationist), you can't even start building up til later in the game. SO first you would need to become fascist or communist which is quite hard due to the home of the free national modifier which makes switching/drifting harder. Then once you do that, then you would need to build up and start making claims which both take time. Now you are probably in the 1940's, from there Mexico probably is neutral and isn't allied or guaranteed by anyone unless the Allies caught wind of your claims. Then you invade them, now if you invade Canada this will certainly start a war with the Allies...

 

[JerkyJerry]

I did it once in BI but I had to fiddle with the file to get it done. To be honest, after about 3 hours. It was a yawn fest. The infrastructure was so poor that it took forever to move. And then you just rolled over everyone. And then it got real boring.
As America I just never join the Allies and never send lend lease. Then I would declare war on as many majors (and anyone else) as I could as quickly as I could. So there would be days when I would have battles with Japan, Russia, Germany, Italy, GB. It did not happen every day but I tried to make it happen as much as possible.
It may even be easier in 4 with the effects of World Tension? I'm hoping it will be more fun to play world domination games not only in SP but MP!

 

[CountMordrek]

Then you invade them, now if you invade Canada this will certainly start a war with the Allies...

Who is afraid of the Allies in 1941 if they don't have the support of the US?

 

[warith1000]

Who is afraid of the Allies in 1941 if they don't have the support of the US?

It was a statement since he asked how the Allies would react, but to answer you directly yes they would have a very hard time. Even with the large Anti-US sediment prevalent here, you would practically have to be a revisionist to deny how powerful the US is but their direct impact on the war in comparison to everyone is debatable (though still very significant regardless).

 

[JerkyJerry]

Who is afraid of the Allies in 1941 if they don't have the support of the US?

Well for me playing a singleplayer world conquest game I did not want to support England as I always wanted Germany to conquer her so that Germany, who started out the strongest country could keep that upward swing going so it would be more difficult for me to defeat it.

 

[Viktor_Vertex]

Who is afraid of the Allies in 1941 if they don't have the support of the US?

In 1941 HOI3, a human UK would annex an AI USA really quickly

 

[BBBD316]

Well you could take the War Plan Red? and invade Canada without joining the Axis.

Once you are at war I think you pretty much have free reign, so take out Canada and use the Navy to stop the UK from getting near you. Then head south.

 

[FLESH HUNTER]

Well you could take the War Plan Red? and invade Canada without joining the Axis.

Once you are at war I think you pretty much have free reign, so take out Canada and use the Navy to stop the UK from getting near you. Then head south.

That plan I think is for a workers revolution

 

[BBBD316]

Well brush off Jack Reed and kick this bad boy off!

Alternatively you could just go after the Japanese on your own and this should get rid of the ban on DOWs.