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Von Mannerheim said:
What was the original subject lost it some where at the nukes on berlin and Tokyo

"Bitter peace at West" was the original topic. And I agree with other ppl here that there is no need for such an event anymore, not with the new peace/diplomatic system which will more easily allow for a peace (or a cease-fire atleast :rolleyes:).

And we Finns like Finland alot! So screw you swedes, we gonna nuke you!
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Sgt_HunteR said:
ooo säg inte fula ord domhär admins längtar bara på att banna nån!!

That includes writing lies in Swedish.
 

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Von Mannerheim said:
He said he was going to nuke me first.......

Ok sorry I love finland and you arent nazis just bacuase the german were helping you........
And I will not nuke you.......

It was directed to Sgt_HunteR.
 

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Von Mannerheim said:
Man ska inte lita på folk från bleking, skåne, halland och jämtland. Dom bara skriker efter att tillhöra danmark igen...

That's a mean, rasistic lie.
 

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Sgt_HunteR said:
haha de e nog olagligt! man kan typ snacka om Hoi sen lägga ett Ps. till varandra.

It's against the rules writing in Swedish, too. Just so you know.
 

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Sgt_HunteR said:
Wow nice timing, are you watching me!

No, I'm reading the HoI2 forum. Since it's here you post, I read what you write.

Von Mannerheim said:
That aint good........... Just swedish? No other languages?

Ich spreche deutsch!!! Icb bin Gott!!

Ich bin könig af die welt!!!

I aint allowed to say that too right......

Wämö=The killer of fun!

In the German forum, you can write in German. I might be a killer of fun, but I follow the rules.
 

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Von Mannerheim said:
Is there a german forum? Why aint there no chinese forum then? They are alot more than the germans....

Is there a french and spanish also? there should be...

French, German and Spanish, yes. No more. This isn't the right place to ask these kind of questions, OT Land is better for that.
 

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Sgt_HunteR said:
The Game Creators are Swedish so we can speak swedish. I dont think they would like to hear 2 Fans banned for speaking swedish in swedish-game forum.

Yes, they would. I'm sorry, but I won't try to help you anymore, since spamming is not allowed. I'm sorry for going off topic.
 

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Someone, please clean or lock this thread. If you think I've spammed, I'm truly sorry, and I didn't mean to.
 

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GarfunkeL said:
"Bitter peace at West" was the original topic. And I agree with other ppl here that there is no need for such an event anymore, not with the new peace/diplomatic system which will more easily allow for a peace (or a cease-fire atleast :rolleyes:).

*desparate attempt to go back on topic*

thats true, i didnt know about it..sorry...


Were would the border line be at a bitter peace for UK? Its homeland is at europe should the germans get it? or should italy get control over africa?

I would like UK to be its indepandant state like normal, but maybe since they surrenderd It would be cool to see countries like Egypt, India, Isreal etc. bid to get independince (oh god i cant spell). Just a thought
 

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vcarter707 said:
I would like UK to be its indepandant state like normal, but maybe since they surrenderd It would be cool to see countries like Egypt, India, Isreal etc. bid to get independince (oh god i cant spell). Just a thought

If the UK surrendered, I could see them becoming a puppet state, and their colonial possesions either made fascist puppets or brought directly under the control of Germany and/or Italy (It's possible that Italy may refuse to join the Axis, after all, especially if played by a player who enjoys the challenge. ;)), but I doubt they would just remain perfectly independent after a Bitter Peace.
 

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Zephyr 3 said:
If the UK surrendered, I could see them becoming a puppet state, and their colonial possesions either made fascist puppets or brought directly under the control of Germany and/or Italy (It's possible that Italy may refuse to join the Axis, after all, especially if played by a player who enjoys the challenge. ;)), but I doubt they would just remain perfectly independent after a Bitter Peace.

completly Independant no, but a puppet in HOI sense no also.

A puppet in HOI 1 meant that the master had complete control, plus all the resources went to the master country (something which I didnt like at all). Maybe Giving part of Britan or its colonial possesions to Germany would be better. Or maybe have germany be able to control the Military but not the economy. It would be neat if 10 years after the peace if Britan could rebel and take on the germans again...But I feel that this could only happen in my dreams (even though I dont really dream about HOI or History that much
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Von Mannerheim said:
How the hell are you going to launch B-29's From an Aircraft carrier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember the Doolittle (sp?) Raid on Tokyo? Granted, they were B-29s, but heavy bombers that were nontheless launched from the back of a carrier. It took everything and then some to make it work, but in a pinch, they could try it again.
 

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Alerias said:
Remember the Doolittle (sp?) Raid on Tokyo? Granted, they were B-29s, but heavy bombers that were nontheless launched from the back of a carrier. It took everything and then some to make it work, but in a pinch, they could try it again.

B-24's are a lot smaller than B-29's...
 

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Alerias said:
Remember the Doolittle (sp?) Raid on Tokyo? Granted, they were B-29s, but heavy bombers that were nontheless launched from the back of a carrier. It took everything and then some to make it work, but in a pinch, they could try it again.
B-25 medium bombers actually...
The April 1942 air attack on Japan, launched from the aircraft carrier Hornet and led by Lieutenant Colonel James H. Doolittle, was the most daring operation yet undertaken by the United States in the young Pacific War. Though conceived as a diversion that would also boost American and allied morale, the raid generated strategic benefits that far outweighed its limited goals.

The raid had its roots in a chance observation that it was possible to launch Army twin-engined bombers from an aircraft carrier, making feasible an early air attack on Japan. Appraised of the idea in January 1942, U.S. Fleet commander Admiral Ernest J. King and Air Forces leader General Henry H. Arnold greeted it with enthusiasm. Arnold assigned the technically-astute Doolittle to organize and lead a suitable air group. The modern, but relatively well-tested B-25B "Mitchell" medium bomber was selected as the delivery vehicle and tests showed that it could fly off a carrier with a useful bomb load and enough fuel to hit Japan and continue on to airfields in China.

Gathering volunteer air crews for an unspecified, but admittedly dangerous mission, Doolittle embarked on a vigourous program of special training for his men and modifications to their planes. The new carrier Hornet was sent to the Pacific to undertake the Navy's part of the mission. So secret was the operation that her Commanding Officer, Captain Marc A. Mitscher, had no idea of his ship's upcoming employment until shortly before sixteen B-25s were loaded on her flight deck. On 2 April 1942 Hornet put to sea and headed west across the vast Pacific.

Joined in mid-ocean on 13 April by Vice Admiral William F. Halsey's flagship Enterprise, which would provide air cover during the approach, Hornet steamed toward a planned 18 April afternoon launching point some 400 miles from Japan. However, before dawn on 18 April, enemy picket boats were encountered much further east than expected. These were evaded or sunk, but got off radio warnings, forcing the planes to take off around 8 AM, while still more than 600 miles out.

Most of the sixteen B-25s, each with a five-man crew, attacked the Tokyo area, with a few hitting Nagoya. Damage to the intended military targets was modest, and none of the planes reached the Chinese airfields (though all but a few of their crewmen survived). However, the Japanese high command was deeply embarrassed. Three of the eight American airmen they had captured were executed. Spurred by Combined Fleet commander Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, they also resolved to eliminate the risk of any more such raids by the early destruction of America's aircraft carriers, a decision that led them to disaster at the Battle of Midway a month and a half later.
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Originally Posted by The historian
thay had a bigger fleet but do you think that the german luftwaffe and u-boats would have let 'em trough easily? consider the fact the british are out the russians are out the germans have the resources and men to build a fleet as big as the us in a couple of years not to mention that the germans would have at least 5000 planes ready to intercept.

yes true, But USA has Iceland... and then they can ask Sweden for Millitary Accses. they can send an ICBM nuke from Stockholm!

1. Germany occupying whole europe including Britain, all resources swifted to air and seawarefare, the US would have "some" problems to build up an army able to beat the country who just knocked all major powers exept the US out of the war. That with zero combat experience, in an offensive... very interesting

2. it would be a great idea of Sweden to make such an agreement and I am quite sure the Germans would do nothing about it, especially when ALL off Europe is allready under control or allied with the Thrid Reich.

3. one nuke is a bad idea because Germany would be so strong (and they were leading in Rockettech) that I am sure the "nice" leaders of the Reichstag would have come up with a very very nasty retaliation for the USA

Fact is, such a situation would be very very hopeless for the USA.