"Bitter Peace" in the west?

[unmerged(10371)]

Alright, One thing I didnt like about HOI 1 was that there are no "bitter peace" events for the west. Now now I know that britan under churchill said that they would never surrender. However I would think that if Moscow, Paris, and London fell that the United Kingdom, Soviet Union, and US would consider making peace with the germans. In HOI seeing UK wiped out, france annexed, russia on its knees, US getting beaten in Europe is something that would surley make the west want peace. I remember that someone made a mod for HOI 1 which (sorry for forgeting who) did those things. So heres what I would think would be needed to trigger such and event.

Germany Controls:
Berlin
Warsaw
Brussels
Amsterdam
Vienna
Paris
London
Moscow
Lenningrad

Germany Owns:

Almost all of mainland England
All of mainland france

etc. etc.....

Germany would Annex Poland in the agreement get parts of france and maybe some other countries...I dont know yet...this is just an idea, take it as you will....

Btw, i am against having germany make UK and France as puppets...I just dont seeing that happen

 

[Wämö]

The new peace system will change that, as it's more similar to Vicky and EU2, AFAIK.

 

[Slargos]

vcarter707? Where have I heard that name before?

 

[unmerged(10371)]

The new peace system will change that, as it's more similar to Vicky and EU2, AFAIK.

Where have you heard about it? Link?

vcarter707? Where have I heard that name before?

if it isnt slargos....

 

[Wämö]

Where have you heard about it? Link?

Here and here.

 

[unmerged(10371)]

Here and here.

Thank you very much...

 

[Wämö]

Thank you very much...

No problem.

 

[Shadow Reaper]

I remember that someone made a mod for HOI 1 which (sorry for forgeting who) did those things.

You mean The Yogi's New World Order events?

 

[unmerged(10371)]

You mean The Yogi's New World Order events?

Exactly, Ive been trying to remember forever..thanks!

 

[unmerged(10371)]

So is USA going to make Peace with Japan too?
And what about the rest of the allies Canada, New Zeland, Australia, South Africa... and the minor ones.

Japan is something I hadnt thought of...

Like Yogi's mod, the minor countries should have a choice whether to accept peace (and perhaps take a dissent hit?) or stay at war...

 

[The historian]

Once the US is in the brits woudn't take bitter peace unles the germans landed in america and took the eastern coast maybe.
As for canada,australia and other commonwealth nations i think they should all be asked if they take the peace or fight on alone the computer should ussualy take the peace as the commonwealth joined the war togheter with GB
As for other allies, Who's left? once France,Britan the low countries, poland and the soviets have fallen.

 

[unmerged(10371)]

Once the us is in the brits woudn't take bitter peace unlees the germans landede in america and took the eastern coast maybe.

True, unfortunetly in HOI 1 that wasnt possible because the AI never did that. Thats one thing I hope gets worked on too, Having the germans invade countries via the sea or ocean.

 

[The historian]

I agree that once europe is taken the germans should attempt to invade the us and not stay like idiots on the beaches waiting for the us to land again and again as it happend in Hoi i found this annoying in my games as a german ally(mostly romania and italy) i di9dn't have the strength to invade the us myself and always had to check the us invasions in southern italy albania and elsewhere while the germans stood all over northern europe catching a tan.

 

[The historian]

Never got that far with germany mostly concentrated on africa and siberia as i never took the bitter peace .
but i have managed to take newengland with italy before being pushed into the sea and have also made several attempts to invade as nationalist spain and even took florida with romania before being pushed back.

 

[unmerged(10371)]

I dont know that much about WW2, but with Russia, UNited Kingdom, France on their knees dont you think rosavelt (i know i know i butchered his name) would of thought about peace? And with making all the allied countries accepting peace I think the US woulda probably gone the same route

 

[The historian]

Ussualy if germany wins in europe they do in 1942-43 they still have time before the us develops nukes

 

[unmerged(10371)]

even if they did have nukes where would the planes fly from? assuming all of Great Britan france etc..fall

 

[The historian]

Agreed Rossevelt would have probably wanted peace but would hitler mad as he was agree to this after having defeated everyone else i doubt it

 

[The historian]

thay had a bigger fleet but do you think that the german luftwaffe and u-boats would have let 'em trough easily? consider the fact the british are out the russians are out the germans have the resources and men to build a fleet as big as the us in a couple of years not to mention that the germans would have at least 5000 planes ready to intercept.

 

[The historian]

The us sending v2 maybe but the germans had the edge in rocket tech.
Good night i'll answer to your replies tommorow. o