Having read the AARland Advocate interview with Johan by Singleton Mosby, this single fact came up and I am overcome with warm and fuzzy feelings: Bilateral alliances!!!!!! 
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Bilateral alliances!!!!!!!
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Drakken said:Having read the AARland Advocate interview with Johan by Singleton Mosby, this single fact came up and I am overcome with warm and fuzzy feelings: Bilateral alliances!!!!!!
Sorry, just wanted to say I like the fact the interview is so well recieved
I think i like it. Wars should be a lot more flexible from now on. But i hope that you can choose whcih allies to call when going to war. No sense in asking help from Spain when going to war against the Moghul Empire, help from Delhi could come in handy though.
I want satellite system implemented on vassals. Ergo, vassal can only rebel against overlord or aid overlord in a war, it cant attack random neighbouring country for no reason. I used to get fits when my vassals would attack one another in EU2.
Well, alliances in EU2 kind of sucked. I'm not surprised they changed that.
Since I don't have Vicky I'm not sure how will that affect the gameplay. Anyone care to elaborate?
Since I don't have Vicky I'm not sure how will that affect the gameplay. Anyone care to elaborate?
Well, the Vicky alliance systm worked like this;Fat said:
1) Standard alliance. This is a normal alliance, for both offensive and defensive wars.
2) Defensive alliance. This is only invoked if one party is attacked.
3)Guarantee of independence - not an alliance exactly, but this may be invoked like a defence pact IIRC.
Both of the alliances may be made invalid for one nation.
Also, you may be a member of many alliances - not just one like EU2.
Ie. Defensive pact with Prussia - Invalid versus Austria
If Denmark invades Prussia you are bound to intervene, if Austria does so, its not your problem.
If Denmark invades Prussia you are bound to intervene, if Austria does so, its not your problem.
Now, I understand it better.
It's more purpose orientated alliance.
Can there be more 'invalid' enemies per alliance or is it just one?
It's more purpose orientated alliance.
Can there be more 'invalid' enemies per alliance or is it just one?
Brownbeard said:
In real history: In WW I Italy before the war had a DEFENSIVE alliance with Prussia and Austro Ungaric Empire but in the august 1914 didin't accept to make war together with his fellows 'cause were the Austrian that attacked Serbia.
After that Italy was free to join an another alliance...
Then we have an interesting point: culd be possible for a country in the same situation of Italy in WW I leave the alliance without any malus?
I support a various type of alliances. It Would bring intersest in the game (EU2 was not so interesting and usable in the Alliance system as a part of the diplomacy - a renewal should be desirable).
We could have merchant alliance. the focus could be on markets but in some manners could bring at conflicts between countries: an update of the MERCHANT HARASSED in EU 2 but expanded. In the 1453 Venezia could have a political alliance with Austria f.e but even a mercant alliance with Ottoman Empire for the use of the mines of alum near Smyrna. In this case the discovering of a great mine of alum near Rome could bring a war between the Pope against OE and Venice (alone without Austria).
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First of all I am ashamed to say that I did not know about The Advocate until now. o
My penance was pending far to much time at work reading through the back issues.
I enjoyed the EUIII interview and it really added to my anticipation for the game.
As for bilateral alliances all I can say is.
o My penance was pending far to much time at work reading through the back issues.
I enjoyed the EUIII interview and it really added to my anticipation for the game.
As for bilateral alliances all I can say is.
Will be possible to have several parallel alliances? So that let's I am the Netherland and dow England. England calls his alliance Partner Scotland for help. Scotland agrees and calls his other alliance Partner Ireland. Ireland calls Spain. Spain calls Genoa. Genoa calls Austria. Austria calls Prussia. Prussia calls Sweden. Sweden calls Danmark etc etc etc?
Knights of honour has a similar system and you never know who you end up fighting in a war.
Knights of honour has a similar system and you never know who you end up fighting in a war.
scotland shouldn't call it's allies in this situation.
I hope we can have specific cibled alliances...
Like an offensive alliance (only) against France between spain and austria
Or an défensive alliance (only) against England between France and Scotland.
I hope we can have specific cibled alliances...
Like an offensive alliance (only) against France between spain and austria
Or an défensive alliance (only) against England between France and Scotland.
miloc said:Will be possible to have several parallel alliances? So that let's I am the Netherland and dow England. England calls his alliance Partner Scotland for help. Scotland agrees and calls his other alliance Partner Ireland. Ireland calls Spain. Spain calls Genoa. Genoa calls Austria. Austria calls Prussia. Prussia calls Sweden. Sweden calls Danmark etc etc etc?
Knights of honour has a similar system and you never know who you end up fighting in a war.
That's the point of bilateral alliances.
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I thought it was interesting that modders can possibly mod in new diplomatic options. So perhaps after a while we'll see some interesting but 'realistic' diplomatic solutions being presented by the modding community.