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Ooh, link to Russia? -Faeelin
If you mean a link to a site about it, sorry do not have one. If you mean a cultural link, I am 100 percent German (born in the United States)
As for Richard he just had bad luck, and a bad attitude. Who better to take him off his high horse
If you mean a link to a site about it, sorry do not have one. If you mean a cultural link, I am 100 percent German (born in the United States)
As for Richard he just had bad luck, and a bad attitude. Who better to take him off his high horse
and just think of a šubiæ wrecking havoc all the way towards constantinople in 1450.-ies, wouldn't want to get in his way...
another idea: install frankopan supremacy over venice, after you burned it down, that is...
BOG I HRVATI!
another idea: install frankopan supremacy over venice, after you burned it down, that is...
BOG I HRVATI!
Barbarossa, please, we know you're a tough guy. There's no need to show off. Go get a drink from the river if you're tired, but please please please don't go for a swim.
Technically, they didn't. Through various dynastic intrigues, Norway was joined with the Danish royal house and Margaretha took control of the countries after her son's death. She then invaded Sweden and chased off the elected king Albrech of Mecklenburg, who had become very unpopular. She joined the three kingdoms in a union but as I recall, only the swedish nobles actually got to choose. Don't know if they had much of a choice, though, with Margaretha controlling the armies...
Since she couldn't be king, she picked a relative to become king of the three kingdoms, a polish relative named Gobislaw. Since no scandinavian king can ever be called 'Gobislaw' and certainly can't be polish, he was renamed 'Erik of Pommerania'. Can the same thing happen in the game, I wonder? A female inherits the throne but because she can't formally rule, she picks some poor cousin to do it for her.
Personally, I think the Union is unfairly treated in history books. Probably because the victors write the history books...
Well, they didn't really win in a technical sense because their army was routed, but the Mongols took very sever looses. Putting up resistance like that at every engagement would have certainly have caused the horde to think twice before advancing, but luckily for the Mongols the Russian nobility were to busy fighting each other to put out numbers like they did the first time at every engagement. So the real lesson for the Rus to learn is get control of your nobility or just let the mongols pass on through.
Eik of Pommerania wasn't a 'Gobislav', nor was he Polish...
His real name was Bogislav, and he was - not surprisingly - Pommeranian
He was also the closest male heir Margrethe had after her son Olav died, as he was the grandson of her sister Ingeborg.
That's not really what happened when we talk about Margrethe and Erik of Pommerania. Margrethe ruled in her own name as long as she could, so she didn't get anyone to rule it "for her". Shid got Bogislav/Erik appoved as her heir to the three thrones though...
Originally posted by Havard
Eik of Pommerania wasn't a 'Gobislav', nor was he Polish...
His real name was Bogislav, and he was - not surprisingly - Pommeranian
He was also the closest male heir Margrethe had after her son Olav died, as he was the grandson of her sister Ingeborg.
That's not really what happened when we talk about Margrethe and Erik of Pommerania. Margrethe ruled in her own name as long as she could, so she didn't get anyone to rule it "for her". Shid got Bogislav/Erik appoved as her heir to the three thrones though...
Not sure why we have different names....do our respective sources have different translations or something? I looked it up and it clearly says "Gobislaw" but it might be wrong.... whatever his name, he was of a polish family, bearing a polish name but YES, not surprisingly he lived in Pommerania. He is also, UNinteresting enough, the only king to ever get married in my home town of Lund. There is still a "Fillippa street", named after the english princess he married...
What I was after with the "ruled for her" was that she was never allowed to call herself "queen". She had to rule in somebody's name and was called other things, such as "our madam" and other things along those lines. She could not be crowned because no women could be.
Strange... I have never seen any source using any other name than Bogislav/Bojislav/Bogislaw/other variants - never Gobislaw. Looks like someone rearranged the letters...
He was a son of the Vratislav VII, Duke of Pommerania, and Maria of Mechlenburg. Pomerania was a Duchy of the Holy Roman Empire at the time - I wouldn't say it was Polish...
She was Queen of Sweden. She used the title from 1375 and was accnowledged as such after she defeated Albrekt in 1389. She ruled Denmark and Norway in her own name as the countries' "Righful Lord and Madam". She wasn't allowed to become Queen on her own though - you're right about that. But it was her rule in her own name that made it possible to insert Erik of Pommerania in Norway, as he had no right to that crown on his own (he was, as I have mentioned related to Margrete - not to the former Royal House of Norway). From 1389 she ruled jointly with Erik in Norway and from 1396 in Denmark. Erik wasn't accepted in Sweden until the Kalmar union the following year.
Originally posted by Havard
Eik of Pommerania wasn't a 'Gobislav', nor was he Polish...
His real name was Bogislav, and he was - not surprisingly - Pommeranian
You can argue to the death whether Boguslaw was Polish or not. Some of his family were raised in Polish court, there were very vital legends that Grypphites are either Piast branch or descendants of Polish gentry, for many times Grypphites were trying to became Polish vassals...
Originally posted by Havard
Strange... I have never seen any source using any other name than Bogislav/Bojislav/Bogislaw/other variants - never Gobislaw. Looks like someone rearranged the letters...
He was a son of the Vratislav VII, Duke of Pommerania, and Maria of Mechlenburg. Pomerania was a Duchy of the Holy Roman Empire at the time - I wouldn't say it was Polish...
As I say, you could argue it to the death. It's just like about Silesia., whether it was Polish until XV or XVI century. You can argue dynasty ties, population, cities, economies, etc etc etc. Definetely Pommerania was under very heavy influence of Polish culture (usually "Polish grave portraits" are used to define borders of Polish culture influence - IIRC such portraits were quite common in at least eastern part of Pommerania).
Besides Warcislaw and Boguslaw are Polish names
I have no doubt about that
I descend from the Piasts too. Doesn't make me any more Polish now, does it?
The point was that Pomerania at the time wasn't a part of Poland. It was a part of the HRE with their own prince. How their family ties were are irrelevant I'd say.
Originally posted by Havard
I have no doubt about that
I descend from the Piasts too. Doesn't make me any more Polish now, does it?
<deadly serious> Yes it does. DO you plan to tak over throne of Poland? I can post you contact to Polish monarchist. </deadly serious>
The point was that Pomerania at the time wasn't a part of Poland. It was a part of the HRE with their own prince. How their family ties were are irrelevant I'd say.
Uhm, i'm affraid i don't understand. What have to do nationality with political situation? Even if I would live in USA and have american citizenship, i still would be Polish. Even if Germany would all of the sudden invade Poland and annex Poznan, i still would be Polish and Poznan still would be Polish.
If you as Kiev deside to fight to Mongols at the Kalka river. No matter how much you dislike and disagre with your Galician and Volhynians allies, do stay together with them and do not try to cross the river. Let your Polovtsian steppe cavalry do the crossing alone, they do have some idea about how to deal with the Mongolians. And btw, try to look out for your left flank, you still have a large part of the Mongolian vanguard on your side of the river .
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Or German, or Czech since XIV century...
Vratislav/Warcislav and Boguslaw/Bohuslav are Slavic names, so this proves strong Slavic influence in Pommerania. Slavic, however, does not necessarily mean Polish.Besides Warcislaw and Boguslaw are Polish names
I am afraid that this kind of patriotism did not exist in the period covered by CK.
Oh yes. Actually Czech had very good claims on Silesia and i wonder why they never jump on boat to discuss that all very important issue ;-D. After all, nothing gives you more fun than flamewar with reasonable opponents knowing history.
I am afraid that this kind of patriotism did not exist in the period covered by CK.
Y'know, kinda depend on period. You are czech, aren't you? Then you know that Czechs during hussite wars were very nationalistic in today's sense of the word; anyway also earlier in XIII century when one of Czech kings (Ottokar? that one who lost at Durnkrut)
asked Poles for help, he was telling something in the sense that they should help him because they are common language (Slavic). And in the very beginning of the XIV century when Cracow revolted against Lokietko, he ordered killing everyone who can't speak Polish.. And he was backed by common people against other Silesian prince who was more pro-German, mainly because that. Definetely ethnicity played it's role in medieval times.
Not to mention all that chauvinism you can see in medieval chronicles. All that boasting with "OUR" victories and all making fun of "THEM" barbarians with funny language and custom.
Czechs do not know EU, they do not know this forum and I am too lazy to do the whole job alone, so...
But I argued Czech claims over Silesia on Polish forum and was quite successful, I daresay.
Yeah, Czech, but from pure Cetral-European breed: Czech/Polish/German.
I agree that common people and some chronicles tended to be very nationalistic. For common people, this was based on the language and I bet it always was Slavs vs. Germans and vice versa, but not, say, Polish vs. Czechs.
Hussite nationalism was rather religious, inspired by Jewish nationalism from the Old Testament - the Chosen Nation, defending the True Faith and all this stuff. When the Hussites wrote Czech, this usually included Bohemian Germans that were hussites (even though they were not many) and excluded Czechs that remained Catholic (even though they were not few).
And yes, Premysl Ottokar II and then Vaclav II and even Charles IV actually played the Slavic card whenever they needed to get help against Germans or tease Silesian Piasts.
But on the other hand, ethinicity did not matter for the elite. You know that Czech kings and many Polish princes were pretty germanized and the important cities were a real Slavic-German mix. So ethnicity existed, but was not really important, with some rare exceptions. For instance, Bohemian Germans never rebelled against the king.
Anyway, I meant that in the Middle Age, nobody cared too much whether Eger remained a "German city" even after it was finally incorporated into Bohemia in the XIV century. And I am sure that when a Styrian noble that got the "incolatus" in Bohemia, he became Bohemian and did not care about his Styrian origin.