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Originally posted by I_Killed-Kenny
:D :D that was a big mistake wasn't it??? :p :p :p

Yes, Don Alfonso should have had him in the Royal Castle as much as he could.
 

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Originally posted by crazy canuck
Now lets not start that debate again.:D

That debate should self-die in CK as you play as the house of Ducas and Adronicos Ducas was the traitor at Manzikert.
This however raises another issue. Who wants to play as the traitors Ducas? Maybe Paradox should consider the possibility of starting BYZ CK with another dynasty...?
If not then a mistake not to repeat in CK could be to send Andronicos to a monastery at the age of 7!
 
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Originally posted by Ledhead
That debate should self-die in CK as you play as the house of Ducas and Adronicos Ducas was the traitor at Manzikert.
This however raises another issue. Who wants to play as the traitors Ducas? Maybe Paradox should consider the possibility of starting BYZ CK with another dynasty...?
If not then a mistake not to repeat in CK could be to send Andronicos to a monastery at the age of 7!

Or to maim him:D and Michael VII and his brothers should be sent to monastery;)
 

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Originally posted by Patricius
Alp Arslan's generous offer was accepted. The problem was that Romanus IV Diogenes was murdered and the deal repudiated. The problem for Byzantium was that this gesture was an act of futile bravado as both the Tagmatas and the armies of the Themes were utterly disorganised after the battle and the Seljuks were able to fan out on to the Anatolian plains.

Sorry I wasn`t clear enough in my first post. I rather meant the `first offer` Alp Arslan made, -before- the battle of Manzikert. The Turkish armies were en route to Damascus when the Byzantine forces entered Armenia. Alp Arslan demanded peace but his offer was rejected.
 

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As Edward I.

Make sure Margaret lives, and once they have a couple of kids, kill Edward II.
 

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Originally posted by tuna
Sorry I wasn`t clear enough in my first post. I rather meant the `first offer` Alp Arslan made, -before- the battle of Manzikert. The Turkish armies were en route to Damascus when the Byzantine forces entered Armenia. Alp Arslan demanded peace but his offer was rejected.

Yes, one of the great blunders of history.

But in the other thread dealing with the battle some believe otherwise.
 

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Originally posted by crazy canuck
Yes, one of the great blunders of history.

But in the other thread dealing with the battle some believe otherwise.

IMO the blunder was not to not accept the peace offer, the biggest blunder at Manzikert was to leave Andronicos Ducas in charge of the imperial rearguard. Otherwise the battle could have gone either way, though the Turks probably was in the best position to win it. But the effect of an eventual Roman defeat wouldn't have been so devastating!
 

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Kill the Ducas, what Basil II should have done.
Sorry Psellus, the conspiricy ends here!
Andronicus Ducas=Dead. Fast.
Death to the Peace Party! Onward to Armenia and Damascus!
 

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as king of France don't look down on the Flemish peasants in 1302 and be sure you've enough regular soldiers with you.
 

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Originally posted by Sonny
Don't stand within crossbowshot of castle you are beseiging - unless you are properly armored.;)
don't get within crossbowshot of a castle you are besieging, even when properly armoured