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Please do not increment based on my post because.
I don't fail to see the point of having a plant that cost you a decent amount of enerfy on a daily basis.
I just turned it off but want to use it later on in game.
AoD AI can handle it so it is IC AI or balance of this feature which screws it up.
Quintelosky has been clear in saying that this "AI handling" is a result of abundant resources in the vanilla AOD environment that allows the AI to have conversion in full 100% slider without lack of resource issues. But this is not due to a smart AI command that handles the issue the a more historical Iron Cross resource situation.
Playing AoD1.05 with IC rev2 the game still has problems with the ground_def_eff modifier. In 1941 sov have a modifier of 0.7, while I as Germany have 1.0. A possible reason is that the modifier for the sov scenario file is missing. The result is that the Russians are beaten within 1-2 month. Further every new country, that is released after scenario start (e.g. Spain, but also some others and all released countries) start with an modifier of 0.8.
Well first of all claiming that Quintelosky has been clear in saying anything on this matter is a bold statement...
You are wrong and Quintelosky is just trying to blame it on someone who's not him. The expansion (IC) is advertised as compatible with AoD, is it not? So now stating that this feature is broken because of AoD doesn't make much sense. The "smart ai command" is also total BS, since commands aren't smart, nor are AIs smart, only human beings are smart and Quintelosky has been smart in putting smoke into your eyes. Resources in AoD are abundant, so what? The feature is an AoD feature and it works with it because of these characteristics, if Iron Cross devs want to advertise their expansion as compatible with AoD, when they change stuff (resource distribution) they should make sure these changes don't clash with other features. So instead of blaming bugs on others work, Quintelosky could maybe have written down this AI command, or otherwise should have not implemented the feature or should have changed resource distribution. Implementing a feature knowing that it will break the game is not very smart... so my guestimate is that Quintelosky did make some mistake.
The bottom line is:
- The Synthetic material plants feature in AoD works. AoD devs are responsible for their own product.
- The Synthetic material plants feature in IC does not work. IC devs are responsible for their own product.
I think these two statements say it all and are certainly clearer than anything Quintelosky ever tried to say in this thread.
It is very sad!
Buy something that does not work and could not do anything about it.
The synthetic material plants became a major bug in CI.
The AI can not handle it.
Buy something that does not work and could not do anything about it.
The synthetic material plants became a major bug in CI.
The AI can not handle it.
I've observed a number of games playing as the GER (1933) that Russia soon has no army. I go into the savegame file and check, and Russia has no energy, no supplies, and very little money. This triggers the Ukrainian revolt and Russia loses most of that area, which becomes an independent nation. Sometimes it looses Belarus too. I went into the savegame file and gave the Soviets a huge amount of energy, supplies and money, but it took them several years (I did this in 1934) to start building divisions again. When I invade the SU it's going to be a walkover.
The easiest solution is to delete all synthetic plans in the scenario or savegame file. I did this and except for the gde bug later the game had no major issues anymore.
Btw in the 1933 scenario there shouldn't be any synthetic plants anyway + IC has so many resources, rendering the small production of resources via plants irrelevant.
Btw in the 1933 scenario there shouldn't be any synthetic plants anyway + IC has so many resources, rendering the small production of resources via plants irrelevant.
I not found synthetic plans in the scenario files of 1933.
Where can I find synthetic plans to delete?
The author of the topic, could change the title to:
BIG BUG/ IRON CROSS - The Synthetic Plans and AI
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I think I have beaten this issue to death on 3 or more threads now. I have given my reasons for it and against it, thus I have noticed in Rev 2 that the Allies do recover from the initial phase of losing all their Energy, but over time I still see France, UK, USSR and others asking me (Germany) for 150 plus energy or more, which makes me wonder if the "fix" is actually working. I even read the code for it, understand the logic, but dont think its really addressing the issue properly as evidence here.
Well I posted that information in another thread for Revision 1, but for Revision 2 just go to your "db" folder and you should see the file "province_rev". Open that up in text editor and go down to "Refinerias" and either delete all of this or comment it out with "#" in every line. Either way works and no one will start with Oil Plant Refineries at start of game.