you shouldnt be changing those stuff at will. you should have to go through the game's mechanics and shoulder the necessary burdens and suffer the necessary penalties.
Bicameral legislatures
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you shouldnt be changing those stuff at will. you should have to go through the game's mechanics and shoulder the necessary burdens and suffer the necessary penalties.
If it was a sort of living, breathing document that changed as the gameplay changed and as laws were enacted or retracted based on the needs of the people and so on, that would make for an awesome addition to the game. It would take a lot of tedious work, though, to do one for every country for every year. Unless there were some sort of general parameters that could be established so they would logically be created by the computer...
Not quite true, since all four estates met in a single chamber with one vote per estate. And the individual estates cannot be said to constitute chambers in their own right.
So if there are two houses does that mean that there will be a gap between 'decisions' being made by the player and them being passed into law by the vote of the parties?
In Victoria parties were only important in regard to selecting the ruling party, but for there to be two houses and to be anything but cosmetic that would require law passing right? so it seems to me that it must imply political involvement in the lawmaking process.
In Victoria parties were only important in regard to selecting the ruling party, but for there to be two houses and to be anything but cosmetic that would require law passing right? so it seems to me that it must imply political involvement in the lawmaking process.
This sounds right if your country is a democracy. However in good old Vicky you had a ruling party also under a Monarchy or Dictatorship. Some called Imperial Party or whatever. I used to think of that as the cabinet, and now I hope for the development into democracy to be somewhat historical.
It was kinda nice in old Vicky too, but with only a government and no parliament. I like this new thing though! There could be constitutional trouble if you juggle this wrongly? bringing more rebels or some nasty stuff.
That would mean the two house system could be formed due to a constitution event, or even a revolution. (As in the addon Revolutions doh) The cool new thing in the other PI games now is the player triggered events, so it could be one of those?
Although it might not be a term that describes the system with a 100% accuracy I still like it and can't think of something that it would be more fit to describe.
Besides they must have had some internal decision making aparatus.
Yes, but the point of having two or more chambers is to ensure that they can veto each other. If the peasants didn't like a suggestion in the riksdag that was supported by the other three estates, they couldn't stop it, since it would by three to one in the final vote. Of course the different estates had to debate and decide how they would vote, but since the decisions within the estates didn't matter unbtil the final vote with one vote per estate, it can hardly be described as a quadrocameral parliament.
The Riksdag of the estates might rather be best represented as a unicameral legislature with only four delegates.
Ok.
I had however heard that some matters fell in some sort of specific jurisdiction of specific estates, notably farming regulations being of little intrest to the other estates, the 4th estate could pretty much deside stuff like that by itself.