Hello guys! I would like to present you my ideas on polishing trade nodes in Europe a bit.
My new proposal:
New Lower Danube node circled in red, Upper Danube coloured white (including Moravia and Slavonia too)
-First of all, if Lower Danube has to be an inland node, then just move Dobruja to Constantinople node (only Tolcu and Silistre should be moved though, Tarnovo is fine in Danube node, it's not part of Dobruja, neither coastal). I'm not sure it does matter at all?
-I'd trade Crimea -> Lower Danube route for a Constantinople -> Lower Danube, which was definately more important, and with some imagination, could represent Genoese activities also.
-Looking north, White Sea should turn into a start-node (without inflows). Hardly doubt that big number of trade goods would go from Novgorod towards the White Sea in Eu4. Maybe after these times.
-Novgorod should flow towards Kiev, not vica-versa. Kiev node should also get an outflow towards the Baltic (Daugava, Memel rivers). Also added a new Persia -> Astrakhan flow.
Kazan -> Astrakhan should stay.
-Kiev -> Krakkow replaced by Kiev -> Crimea -> Krakkow. The eastern part of Via Regia (the Krakkow-Kiev route) shrinked, mostly disappeared after the Mongol incursions. It's place was taken by a Baltic route to Novgorod and by the Dniester trade from the Black Sea.
-I find Western European trade quite good, and I guess the direct Alexandria -> Venice and Alexandria -> Genoa flows intended to represent the Republics' trade penetration in the middle east.
-I also befriended Ragusa node. With the new patch there's enough provinces for both nodes to coexist.
My new proposal:
New Lower Danube node circled in red, Upper Danube coloured white (including Moravia and Slavonia too)
-First of all, if Lower Danube has to be an inland node, then just move Dobruja to Constantinople node (only Tolcu and Silistre should be moved though, Tarnovo is fine in Danube node, it's not part of Dobruja, neither coastal). I'm not sure it does matter at all?
-I'd trade Crimea -> Lower Danube route for a Constantinople -> Lower Danube, which was definately more important, and with some imagination, could represent Genoese activities also.
-Looking north, White Sea should turn into a start-node (without inflows). Hardly doubt that big number of trade goods would go from Novgorod towards the White Sea in Eu4. Maybe after these times.
-Novgorod should flow towards Kiev, not vica-versa. Kiev node should also get an outflow towards the Baltic (Daugava, Memel rivers). Also added a new Persia -> Astrakhan flow.
Kazan -> Astrakhan should stay.
-Kiev -> Krakkow replaced by Kiev -> Crimea -> Krakkow. The eastern part of Via Regia (the Krakkow-Kiev route) shrinked, mostly disappeared after the Mongol incursions. It's place was taken by a Baltic route to Novgorod and by the Dniester trade from the Black Sea.
-I find Western European trade quite good, and I guess the direct Alexandria -> Venice and Alexandria -> Genoa flows intended to represent the Republics' trade penetration in the middle east.
-I also befriended Ragusa node. With the new patch there's enough provinces for both nodes to coexist.
So first of all, I think the Ragusa trade node.. doesen't represent well the situation. It always bothered me.
It was quite an important city for a period of time (as it was pointed out in several suggestions concerning dalmatian culture and splitting dalmatia province), but it had nothing to do with let's say Athens or Varasd, which provinces are right now in the Ragusa tradenode.
But the Danube was a very important river at the time, trade between Constantinople and Wien happened mostly through it, and didn't have anything to do with Ragusa.
So i propose to change Ragusa into Lower Danube, and Wien to Upper Danube. Maybe also Crimea to Black Sea.
Somehow like this:
Lower Danube could be an inland tradenode, including Transylvania, Alföld, Serbia, Wallachia, western moldavia, eastern bosnia, and part of Bulgaria. The coastal provinces of Ragusa could be divided between Constantinople (Greek ones, imo) and Venice (adriatic).
As the devs said the region will get an update, so potential new provinces could boost this node a bit bulkier than it may sound.
Trade flows could be also changed a bit:
Crimea/Black sea -> Lower Danube
Constantinople -> Venice
Constantinople -> Lower Danube (instead of Ragusa)
Constantinople -> Tunis
Constantinople -> Genoa i'm not sure about, maybe rather through Tunis?
Lower Danube -> Upper Danube
Lower Danube -> Venice
Venice traded with the Levante intensively, without having to face rivals on the balkans. Neither Hungary, neither the serbs, neither Ragusa could disturb venetian trade for long. This was their main advantage. And the current Venice tradenode's number of provinces is less than half than that of current Genoa (22 to 51 if my I counted well).
So i think a direct trade connection between Venice and Constantinople, and an alternative one through the Danube would represent both the Adriatic/Aegean region, and the Danube region better.
Edit: there's my new version:
Sources:
Danube basin:
https://www.researchgate.net/profil...4640@1447790233522/The-Danube-River-basin.png
It was quite an important city for a period of time (as it was pointed out in several suggestions concerning dalmatian culture and splitting dalmatia province), but it had nothing to do with let's say Athens or Varasd, which provinces are right now in the Ragusa tradenode.
But the Danube was a very important river at the time, trade between Constantinople and Wien happened mostly through it, and didn't have anything to do with Ragusa.
So i propose to change Ragusa into Lower Danube, and Wien to Upper Danube. Maybe also Crimea to Black Sea.
Somehow like this:
Lower Danube could be an inland tradenode, including Transylvania, Alföld, Serbia, Wallachia, western moldavia, eastern bosnia, and part of Bulgaria. The coastal provinces of Ragusa could be divided between Constantinople (Greek ones, imo) and Venice (adriatic).
As the devs said the region will get an update, so potential new provinces could boost this node a bit bulkier than it may sound.
Trade flows could be also changed a bit:
Crimea/Black sea -> Lower Danube
Constantinople -> Venice
Constantinople -> Lower Danube (instead of Ragusa)
Constantinople -> Tunis
Constantinople -> Genoa i'm not sure about, maybe rather through Tunis?
Lower Danube -> Upper Danube
Lower Danube -> Venice
Venice traded with the Levante intensively, without having to face rivals on the balkans. Neither Hungary, neither the serbs, neither Ragusa could disturb venetian trade for long. This was their main advantage. And the current Venice tradenode's number of provinces is less than half than that of current Genoa (22 to 51 if my I counted well).
So i think a direct trade connection between Venice and Constantinople, and an alternative one through the Danube would represent both the Adriatic/Aegean region, and the Danube region better.
Edit: there's my new version:
Sources:
Danube basin:
https://www.researchgate.net/profil...4640@1447790233522/The-Danube-River-basin.png
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