Better Slavic Pagan Mod

[moscal]

OK, Now I have vacation, so I will try make new version

To Do List (for me and others for information)
*adaptation reforms/events to new technology system
*caps for Neuri
*final Vampire Ring
*** rework the transformation into vampire (in my tests - current in boring and non-interesant)
*** misions for members
*** random events for members and others volks

For small love - caps for 'vampires'

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[JanekJ]

Sorry for disturbing, but is there any progress in work on the next update? I can't wait to see this great mod working again!

 

[moscal]

Sorry for disturbing, but is there any progress in work on the next update? I can't wait to see this great mod working again!

Hi! I don't know I have problems with home so first I must repair and next modernization mod

I also am sadly by this

 

[moscal]

New version. Adaptation to new system of technology + Vampire Ring (illegal society focused on vampirism and seeking eternal life)

For next version I will work on general, smaller features. Illegal societies need EXTREMAL LOOT of works and time, and I have less and less time.

 

[bobesin]

Hey dude, would you mind me helping you with the mod lore wise? I'm a part of a rodnovery organization in Serbia called Staroslavci, our goal is to revive our ancestor's ways of life and faith. If you need any help or ideas please tell me, I'm so interested in helping you out with this.

 

[moscal]

Hey dude, would you mind me helping you with the mod lore wise? I'm a part of a rodnovery organization in Serbia called Staroslavci, our goal is to revive our ancestor's ways of life and faith. If you need any help or ideas please tell me, I'm so interested in helping you out with this.

Hey!
Problem with current neopaganism is fact, that often thoses organizations/religions/cults are mainly a recunstructionism. How you wrote - "revive". In my mod I think "what could happen if religious and political elites go into modernization and standarization way". Therefore I create alt-historical concept about "evolution into extremal dualism".

Therefore if you want help - give concept "what can be done in non-tribal times". In events, decisions, interactions with priests or maybe something with priests. For tribal and early feudal times I have many events, decisions etc. And therefore early game is intresant in my mod. But what next...

 

[bobesin]

Hey!
Problem with current neopaganism is fact, that often thoses organizations/religions/cults are mainly a recunstructionism. How you wrote - "revive". In my mod I think "what could happen if religious and political elites go into modernization and standarization way". Therefore I create alt-historical concept about "evolution into extremal dualism".

Therefore if you want help - give concept "what can be done in non-tribal times". In events, decisions, interactions with priests or maybe something with priests. For tribal and early feudal times I have many events, decisions etc. And therefore early game is intresant in my mod. But what next...

You can implement a Koledo and Kupalo event, you can make an event where all the chancellors and liege meet under the Oak tree to discuss important matters, you can ask priests to perform a ritual of Svetovid's white horse that passes through a path of spears to determine the outcome of a war you're in, you can put a decision to make a sacrifice to Mokosh and Lada for well being of yourself and your family/friends if they are hurting or maybe if your wife is pregnant that the child turns out with positive traits, etc...

 

[moscal]

@bobesin

1) Night of Kupala - from polish sources and materials, this was extremal wild nad barbaric fest. Few rituals on fire and next - great orgy. After modernization of faith official clergyship should have negative oppinion about this. I think, that only good option will be event about illegal rites after reformation time. Maybe daughter will be kidnaped and raped for this ritual, or maybe something other?
2) Oak tree and debates isn't for adaptation. For this is mechanism of... council... And what? Late medieval, random priests convert West African Peoples into one of slavic denomination, Africans have great stone castles, modern cities etc. and king seek Oak tree to debate with council...
3) Ritual of Svetowid is in mod. Arkona must be in realm
4) Sacrifice for Mokosh or Lada in style roman Vestals or simple "virgin blood for godness"? Or maybe sacrifice in style sect of Scopscy (great and small sigil - self-castration, breast removal etc.)? Here also - legal or illegal rite? And long-term consequence? I can send my son for temple of Lada to castration - for better life of my family or for fight with plague. Do this son should have special options later? Personality transformation into saint or into murder or laziest person?

I don't want events or decisions in style "click and forgotten". You do something - you can get consequence few months or years later. You get extra rival or extra friend. Maybe mobs want blood of random persons? Or something other. I want go into this way

 

[bobesin]

Well I am familiar with the south Slavic traditions of our native faith, idk really how it went down with western Slavs and eastern Slavs, but here at Koledo it represented a birth of a new god, Svarozic, that represents birth of a new year. It's similar as a Jarilo festival, it can be like a celebration where you can invite from your closest people to all of the people in the county. You can do it as a Jarilo festival with +opinions because that's how it was. Young men used to wake up early in the morning and carefully cut off an Oak branch to light it in the evening, then they make a bonfire and hold hands and dance around it singing the Koledo rite song, then they jump over the fire for good luck. Same goes for Kupalo, but women make flower hats and send them down the river/stream for successful love and overall good luck. You can put a low chance of assassinations in those celebrations, some drunken duels maybe, falling in love with a person, etc. Sacrifices for Mokosh and Lada were in food. Apples, wheat, bread, meat and so on. They lay it on the ground, they say "great mother Lada, I bring you this sacrifice so you will look upon myself and my kin and bring me [insert wish here]. I hope this satisfies your needs." Women do that mostly, but men also do it from time to time. I'm not too good in the mechanic type of stuff what can it do, I can provide you with lore

 

[moscal]

Well I am familiar with the south Slavic traditions of our native faith, idk really how it went down with western Slavs and eastern Slavs, but here at Koledo it represented a birth of a new god, Svarozic, that represents birth of a new year. It's similar as a Jarilo festival, it can be like a celebration where you can invite from your closest people to all of the people in the county. You can do it as a Jarilo festival with +opinions because that's how it was. Young men used to wake up early in the morning and carefully cut off an Oak branch to light it in the evening, then they make a bonfire and hold hands and dance around it singing the Koledo rite song, then they jump over the fire for good luck. Same goes for Kupalo, but women make flower hats and send them down the river/stream for successful love and overall good luck. You can put a low chance of assassinations in those celebrations, some drunken duels maybe, falling in love with a person, etc. Sacrifices for Mokosh and Lada were in food. Apples, wheat, bread, meat and so on. They lay it on the ground, they say "great mother Lada, I bring you this sacrifice so you will look upon myself and my kin and bring me [insert wish here]. I hope this satisfies your needs." Women do that mostly, but men also do it from time to time. I'm not too good in the mechanic type of stuff what can it do, I can provide you with lore

I also have knowledge about slavic rites, concepts of world-gods etc. But problem is in fact, that we need separate functions. Second and next fest similar to Fest of Jarilo isn't needed. Copy-paste with separate texts and two modifiers? Pfff... Also rites similar to "Worship of ancensor" from native - this isn't needed. Complete separate concepts, interesting, long-term effects and side effects etc. Effects on persons and state and even rest of world. Small rites, similar fests etc. this isn't my goal.

Please - play few ages in this mod. You should feel what is my goal. What I want create etc.

BTW - Koliata is in mod as folk fest.

 

[secretfire]

Sometimes the ability to feed off of lovers doesn't show up on lovers for vampires. I'm not sure why. When it does, getting blood/power is really easy, and when it does not, its very hard and you watch it drain helplessly. I'm not sure what the difference is.

Currently, I just became a vampire and I'm 'extremely suspicious', can't feed, and running low on blood. Perhaps a realistic downside. Very challenging though as I'm not entirely understanding of the rules its working on.

Also, is this just adding +10 health, or the immortality tag?

 

[moscal]

Sometimes the ability to feed off of lovers doesn't show up on lovers for vampires. I'm not sure why. When it does, getting blood/power is really easy, and when it does not, its very hard and you watch it drain helplessly. I'm not sure what the difference is.

There is X events for target. 1. target must "agree" on meting. 2. cannot have wrong RNG number. Therefore "vampiric seduction" isn't 100%

Currently, I just became a vampire and I'm 'extremely suspicious', can't feed, and running low on blood. Perhaps a realistic downside. Very challenging though as I'm not entirely understanding of the rules its working on.

As true vampire? You still should have missions for reduce "suspicious". Do you had any as true vampire? If not I must create some... fix

Also, is this just adding +10 health, or the immortality tag?

And immortlity. But if you don't have blood - you will die

 

[secretfire]

I have only ever had one mission crop up. Once you become a vampire, you have to sustain 200 blood every *60 days*, which means you have to have lovers and feed CONSTANTLY, there's just no reasonably way to keep suspicion down if the event doesn't fire like...all the time. Because every time you feed, it raises suspicion.

You might consider making the blood pay rate less then every 2 months. Currently, I think the 60 days just makes suspicion skyrocket too high.

Also, I think I literally -just- realized that the lovers also have to be in your court.

 

[moscal]

You can have good source of blood from prisoners if they arent 'just nobody' ;-) Many good traits give extra blood points from target. There is possible even "life by blood of one person"

About "suspiciuos" - I have to rethink some extra mechanism for neutralisation...