Better Marriages

[monkey1998]

Can we please go back to the CK2 model of marriages giving automatic nonaggression pacts instead of alliances. If you have a lot of kids (and you often do) it makes it harder to find marriages for younger kids because there is now a penalty for having too many alliances. Besides there is historical precedent for marriages simply meaning nonaggression between two kingdoms instead of full-blown alliance. Also could y'all add in more options to increase or even decrease acceptance chance like dowries of money, land, or making alliances an option here. As well as a few events to make things more interactive like there being events for courtship while they are betrothed which could increase and decrease each other's opinion.

 

[vyshan]

I support this.

 

[ZoCurious]

Given that the game is about dynasties, I agree that marriages are not fleshed out. There are no negotiations before the marriage and nothing happens throughout the married life except (incessant!) baby popping and cat allergies. It is a bit odd that you can negotiate the release of prisoners in detail but have no options when arranging a marriage for yourself or your child.

And then, of course, there is the problem with the game thinking that incest was okay for medieval Catholic and Orthodox Christians.

 

[vyshan]

I strongly support this. In order to get alliances from marriages should require some favor trading and diplomacy.

For example, I am the duke of Prussia, I am pagan, and I am bordering a large and threatening Poland. The king of Poland has a young daughter and I don't have a wife. Now normally he wouldn't agree to the marriage, but I offer him a few things, notably I agree to be Christianized and perhaps agree to swear fealty to the king of Poland.

Or as another example, I am the powerful duke of York, and the King of England wants to marry my intelligent and beautiful sister. I could say no, however as a powerful duke, I want something out of this notably I want to either have low taxes or exempt from taxation. so the marriage goes through, my sister is now queen of England, and I as the duke of York now am free from paying the king taxes so I can fund my own projects.