Betapatch 1.03b - May 15th 2004

[Tormodius]

No problem cipollacipolla!
You can mod it so Sokoto becomes civilized. Playing uncivilized countries unmodded is no fun. Civilizing is event-triggered by some chosen conditions. IMO a country should not need to be militarized to become civilized, but then again... I'm no socialdarwinist. Well, there is a thread about it, and how you do it.

Nice... I found it!
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136743&highlight=Civilize+event

##################################################  #######################
#  Event to civilize any nation...
##################################################  #######################
event = { 
	id = 6667
	random = no
        invention = yes

        trigger = {
		civilized = no
		prestige = 100
		industry = 50
		military = 2
        }
	
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1836 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = {  year = 1921 }
	
	name = "EVT_6667_NAME"
	desc = "EVT_6667_DESC"
	style = 0
	
	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME6667A"
 
		command = { type = civilized value = yes }
	}
}

 

[unmerged(28016)]

income problem

Hi, I installed a clean vic and then updated to 1.03. Then copy the files of 1.03b. Then when I start the game, after half a year or so, the money of the rich start to dropping and quickly reach to zero. What could be wrong?

Thanks.

 

[Tormodius]

I think they buy too much stuff then. The amounts they buy is also moddable so we can experiment. Anyway, the problem of a poor upperclass - rich lowerclass was detected already in v1.02. I don't know in particular what the reason was, but it persisted in 1.03. Johan said above that he had fixed it now.

 

[Therlun]

@yanangel
short answer: its your fault, not the patch.

probably you did put the taxes to high....
if they have a cash reserve of 0 its not a problem. only if their "needs" are not fullfilled it is. life substaining needs to be as much as possible, everything above (everyday needs) is good.

 

[unmerged(28016)]

Thanks for the quick response

I actually dropped down the tax to 0 just to test out. It seems the rich does got all there basic needs, but the cash is just zero. So that means the income problem is fixed but they just spent all their money on the basic needs? It seems the poor does have some money left. Thanks again.

 

[Darkrenown]

yes i have windows xp but when i tried to open the file it wouldnt let me..well i guess i didnt know about the copying ang pasting...so will try that to nite as soon as i finish work and get home....

Hmm, with XP it should just open...unless it's only XP pro that can open zips. Haven't used XP home in years. Well if you can't open it just get rararchiver, you'll need that to open my mod anyway if you get that
Anyway, you can get VIP here, but it isn't updated for 1.03b yet so you should probably leave it for now.

 

[Darkrenown]

I actually dropped down the tax to 0 just to test out. It seems the rich does got all there basic needs, but the cash is just zero. So that means the income problem is fixed but they just spent all their money on the basic needs? It seems the poor does have some money left. Thanks again.

Later in the game more goods will be produced and your pops will have more money.

 

[OriginalRafiki]

Updated at 15th of May to include the eventfile fixes.

Thanks, Johan

Apart from the changed date for the socialist revolution, what are the updates to the event files?

Rafiki

 

[unmerged(17724)]

How exactly does one install this patch? Unzip into directory??
Thanks.

 

[OriginalRafiki]

Yup, that's basically it. Unzip it into your root Victoria-directory. You'll probably be asked whether you want to overwrite files or not (if you don't get asked, you might be unzipping into the wrong place). And that's it.

Rafiki

 

[Prussian_Nerd]

Is this a May or a March 15th patch? It states both on this thread. I'll be the first to say though that it is more than likely May 15th, since the first 1.03b patch came out on May 8th. That leads me to other, more important, questions. Can I install May 15th 1.03b patch over May 8th 1.03b patch, or do I have to re-install everything? Will this throw the progress of VIP 1.03b(8th/15th of May) out of the window? I'm not looking forward to a 1/4 of a patch twice a month that forces me start everything over again. Lastly; if Install May 15th 1.03b patch over May 8th 1.03b patch, will I be able to continue my saved games? If not, read my second to last sentence again once more.

 

[Darkrenown]

The only change is the new event files, just copy them into your event folder if you've already got the may 8th patch.

 

[OriginalRafiki]

It is indeed a May-patch, Johan was a bit quick when he updated, I guess

You can install it on top of the previous patch, it will overwrite the same files, anyway.

I don't think there will be any large problems in continuing your game started with 1.03b-May 8th. I don't know how large/which changes have been made to the events, but I'd be surprised if they are savegame-continuation-breaking.

Rafiki

 

[Prussian_Nerd]

THX to the both of you for offering your insight. THX for your work on this forum, community, and game too.

 

[Darkrenown]

We don't do it out of kindness, we expect HoI2 betas for all this work!

j/k

 

[OriginalRafiki]

Mmmmmm........ HOI2 beta.......

Rafiki

 

[Gothmog]

Mmmmmm........ HOI2 beta.......

Rafiki

I guess some people start early...really early.

 

[PMLF]

The only change is the new event files, just copy them into your event folder if you've already got the may 8th patch.

I hope the add_pop command will work fine when Johan updates the beta patch again. At the moment it only works well with some cultures/religions but not with others (like Askhenazic/Dixie/Jewish/Sunni).

 

[Darkrenown]

I hope when he fixes it he doesn't change the syntax, otherwise the VIP modders may attack him.

 

[Rio]

Wicked cool. Thanks for the update (which definitely makes the normal setting a bit more uphill).

While complicated, Vic is an economist's game for certain, even if Keynes' GT doesn't get any love in it. As I will continue to say, trust in Paradox in general and Johan in particular is what makes this series of games work. What ships is irrelevant- Worries are irrelevant- Competition is irrelevant: The final product will be one, You will be assimilated!