Beta of 5.1 - 11th July 2011 - Discussion Thread

[AndrewT]

When are you going to swap the Punjab and Rajaputana flags then?

Report it in Bug Reports with suitable references and it'll be done. Whether in time for the official 5.1 I have no idea.

 

[Cerbo]

Has anyone ever suggested having tolerance impact missionary chance? Not only does it make sense (the more tolerant a country is the less likely people will feel pressured to give up their beliefs) but it would prevent the Ottomans from converting the balkans by 1500 and it would give theocracies something to make them not a complete waste.

 

[MichaelM]

Has anyone ever suggested having tolerance impact missionary chance? Not only does it make sense (the more tolerant a country is the less likely people will feel pressured to give up their beliefs) but it would prevent the Ottomans from converting the balkans by 1500 and it would give theocracies something to make them not a complete waste.

I like the idea, but it's almost certainly too late in the patch cycle to implement such a feature and make sure it's balanced before release.

 

[Cerbo]

Oh I know. Just thought of it today and figured I'd throw it out here. If anyone wants to make a thread to discuss it they're more than welcome to.

 

[Axe27]

Still horrendously broken. Nonsensical alliance chains means DOWing Aztecs will eventually end up with France joining the alliance against you, Junior partners in your PU attacking you because you DOW somebody in their sphere, allies DOWing Funj over and over and over again.

Good lord, time to revert back to HTTT.

 

[gela1212]

Wait. How in the world would war deccing Aztecs get France to join a war against you? You're severely overestimating the cascading alliances. Besides, it makes you pick your wars wiser.

 

[lordkestrel]

Wait. How in the world would war deccing Aztecs get France to join a war against you? You're severely overestimating the cascading alliances. Besides, it makes you pick your wars wiser.

Reality isn't required when it comes to bitching about something.

 

[Vortex79]

If you're complaining about alliance chains, you're obviously not doing the diplomatic side of your game correctly. When I alliance chain, half the world comes to my calling, not to the calling of my enemy. Alliance chains should stay exactly as they are.

 

[gela1212]

Reality isn't required when it comes to complaining about something.

Do you mind if I put this in my signature? Made me laugh more than I have in awhile. With the fix I made of course, since bad words are a no-no here.

 

[nestorius]

What is this?

Vassalise is now spelled Vassalize.

Vassalise is the correct English spelling, Vassalize is American. I have no idea why you would choose this decission. Particularly as the US virtually plays no role in the game. I support changing it back.

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[BritNavFan]

If you're complaining about alliance chains, you're obviously not doing the diplomatic side of your game correctly. When I alliance chain, half the world comes to my calling, not to the calling of my enemy. Alliance chains should stay exactly as they are.

Because it's so MUCH fun, in a game supposedly set in the 1400's, for WWI to break out every time two minor powers go to war.

 

[The Blood Eagle]

1. I still don't have old/older autosaves.

2. Game still slows to a crawl during colonization.

3. I think the OED favors 'American English' because, being the lingua franca of so many nations, those nations aren't going through the London CoT anymore, they're going through the Manhattan one. Not a dig on anyone, but you're foolish if you think that England is more economically relevant than the US.

Edit - on the topic of language, please for the love of whatever you believe in, stop spelling 'lose' with an extra o. Anyone who makes this mistake has no business arguing what the 'real' English is.

 

[Apocaliptica]

what the-

you guys complain about british/american english while the hordes are still f**ked up?
seriously >.<


btw:
what is
"- Added another outliner category for "human players", which is rather useful in MP."

supposed to mean?

 

[The Blood Eagle]

what the-


what is
"- Added another outliner category for "human players", which is rather useful in MP."

supposed to mean?

It's another category of things you can monitor with the lists in the upper-right.

Having said that, I forgot to mention that the map cache is still wonky.

 

[ANO1453]

*checks to see if being outcompeted by Trade League was fixed...
Oh wait, I left the Trade League anyway

This patch brought some solution to some small, and not that relevant, questions. Which is still good. I didn't get the Vassalise change though.

 

[Johan]

For the record. Hordes being powerful early and then declining is the intent.

 

[Johan]

1) when you hover your mouse over an army you get an army composition like 2000/4000/1000 and unfortunatly when you click on that army the tiny "army summarize on top of the regiment pannel" will be 4000/2000/1000. As you may have noticed, the order is mixed up between two views that are both often used, forcing the player to have a dual-system in his mind. Can you please reverse one of the two plz ?

Its inf/cav/art in both for me. Its been like that since httt.

 

[unmerged(96425)]

Sheesh, why on Earth did someone think it was a good idea to turn vassalise into vassalize? Why would someone deliberately do this?? Seeing that would bug the heck out of me every time I look at the diplomatic options in the game, so I won't be updating to this patch.

 

[AndrewT]

Its inf/cav/art in both for me. Its been like that since httt.

There's a third place: when you hover your cursor over the total troop number at the top-right of the troop details window, just to the right of the leader name.

In one place it's cav-inf-art, in two others inf-cav-art. And in one place it's regiments on top and troop numbers below, the other two are the other way up.
http://img593.imageshack.us/i/eu32.png/
See bug 10248 for details.

And, while we're at it, the gap between the image of inf, cav or art and the troop numbers is too large, the numbers look like they belong to the image to their immediate right rather than the distant left.

 

[Johan]

thanks, fixed.