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That idiom doesn't seem to translate well. The only thing that "getting a long nose" implies to me is lying, like Pinocchio.
What is means in this situation is that they were conned and were left with nothing and looked really stupid.
 

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None of those are part of the Lesser Antilles.
Who is to say none of the Lesser Antilles couldn't have revolted? And given Haiti is just a single province (or is it two?) then you need provinces which never revolted. And even just the Bigger Antilles isn't really that many provinces.
 

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I don't see 1.14.4 as an option in Steam, even after restarting. PC-only?
It is around the bottom of the beta list for some reason.
 

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Here in Korea you get 2 weeks of paid vacation a year, but in practice we get no paid vacations at all.

You often get ostracized by your boss and peers for even asking for a paid vacation and your chance of promotion vaporizes with it. The penalty imposed on the employers for breaking the law is so light that most companies choose to ignore it so there is no paid vacations. You are forced to work extra hours after your regular business hours and you don't get paid the extra. In addition you are also dragged to bars after work to entertain your boss. Often, you are called to work on Saturday and Sunday on short notice and you are obligated to work regardless of your weekend plans.

Signing up with a labour union is like signing up your letter of resignation and you are basically corporations' slave. (Samsung has no labour union to this day) Koreans work 2300 hours a year in average, and that is excluding 'extra hours' you work and not get paid for. My father used to leave home at 7 am and return at 12am(midnight) 6 days a week when he worked for a company.

I live in one of the shittiest countries among OECD members. North Korea shows the world how bad communism can be while South Korea shows the world how bad capitalism can be. Everytime I see Paradox devs leaving for a long break I feel very sad for Koreans. Glorious Sweden needs to invade Korea and incorporate our country as one of their provinces. Sweden gets great RTS and AOS gamers while Koreans get a better life; a fair deal if I ever heard one.
well,to be fair... we did get the labour union since the majority got mad enough from bad working conditions and bad pay that they all joined the union and demanded together, 'together we are strong' the saying was in DK. When the factory owners had other to work in the factories due to strikes, they simply had to make some deals with the unions and respect their power :) might be difficult to do in this global age, but really boils down to enough standing up and have the nerve to stand without pay... many were laid off during these first periods, but in the end most were employed in the same again and the others had found other jobs but now with better benefits :)
 
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well,to be fair... we did get the labour union since the majority got mad enough from bad working conditions and bad pay that they all joined the union and demanded together, 'together we are strong' the saying was in DK. When the factory owners had other to work in the factories due to strikes, they simply had to make some deals with the unions and respect their power :) might be difficult to do in this global age, but really boils down to enough standing up and have the nerve to stand without pay... many were laid off during these first periods, but in the end most were employed in the same again and the others had found other jobs but now with better benefits :)
The problem is if they have anti union laws. And having a 7 months long general strike/lockout isn't really feasible in this day and age.
 

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The problem is if they have anti union laws. And having a 7 months long general strike/lockout isn't really feasible in this day and age.
will remind you that we had anti-union laws, persecuting of members and leaders of unions and imprisonment and attacks on any who supported it openly :) but the global world makes it a bit more tricky, not impossible though. Since many industries also need to be local and the cost of moving out is still quite steep... but still easier when production was more national...
 

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then you should contact a lawyer because your employer is breaking the law:p

uk get 28 days paid holidays a year and since most people get 2 days off a week that equates to 5 and a half weeks. if you dont work bank holidays then that would reduce your spendable holidays by 7 days but those days are still counted as paid holidays.

I didn't count any bank holidays in the 4 weeks, the most paid holiday I ever got from a job was 29 days - base 25 plus 4 extra days for long-service, plus bank holidays, of course
 

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will remind you that we had anti-union laws, persecuting of members and leaders of unions and imprisonment and attacks on any who supported it openly :) but the global world makes it a bit more tricky, not impossible though. Since many industries also need to be local and the cost of moving out is still quite steep... but still easier when production was more national...
I know we had those. But my point was that I don't see a 7 months long general strike/lockout being feasible these days---remember that was what it took to get the September Agreement.
 

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I know we had those. But my point was that I don't see a 7 months long general strike/lockout being feasible these days---remember that was what it took to get the September Agreement.
it does take some time yes, and if they had that thought back then that 7 months was a long time then it would never have happened :) also the amount of time is reduced by the amount who supports it. If 70 or 80% goes on strike it will not take that long, but that's not necessarily an option...
 

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Who is to say none of the Lesser Antilles couldn't have revolted? And given Haiti is just a single province (or is it two?) then you need provinces which never revolted. And even just the Bigger Antilles isn't really that many provinces.


I can say, I studied History of the Caribbean in a Masters course level.

In the Lesser Antilles there weren't the conditions or the population to mount a revolution. In a lot of French and British islands, tens of thousands of Indian indentured servants were brought over. This means that a big chunk of the population was apolitical and only cared about making money and then going back home. Those that remained on the island kept themselves to their own group. The slave proportion wasn't like in other colonies (In Haiti slaves outnumbered whites 10 to 1) so a revolution of slaves wouldn't have occurred. Geographically, the islands are small and don't offer much hiding place to mount a resistance from. In Haiti and later on Cuba in the 20th century you had all sorts of mountain ranges and other hiding places.

What happened in Haiti was a unique combination of events from the French Revolution, with disproportion in slave numbers, and a vast array of different groups. There were the Grand Blancs, the Petit Blancs, the Free Blacks, and the Slaves.

Haiti also had one of the biggest populations in the Caribbean, they far exceeded Santo Domingo's (Dominican Republic) population during the slave revolt and took over the whole island for decades.
 
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I know that CTDs have priority, I just wish they would fix mundane bugs that make game unplayable (like AI, ZoC, estates, peace, trade in RNW, etc).
And bugs that are God knows how long in game: colonist travel time/route, battles, or even herald announcing ruler's personality trait.
 
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I know that CTDs have priority, I just wish they would fix mundane bugs that make game unplayable (like AI, ZoC, estates, peace, trade in RNW, etc).
And bugs that are God knows how long in game: colonist travel time/route, battles, or even herald announcing ruler's personality trait.
mid january... They need to test some things currently and some balancing and the holidays gets in the way :)
 

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The problem is if they have anti union laws. And having a 7 months long general strike/lockout isn't really feasible in this day and age.


There are no anti union laws in South Korea. The problem is the immature civic awareness of people. Most major newspapers and media toe the government line and negatively write about labour unions; that's why many Koreans actually believe that labour unions are a small elite group of selfish workers who do not give a toss about well being of their peers hence should be prosecuted by the authority; that's why many Koreans would cynically call labour unions "aristocratic labour unions". Without a support from citizens, a labour movement can't succeed because people turn a blind eye to illegal police and corporation's suppression against a labour movement.

There is a law that dictates that only one labour union may exist within a company; Samsung created a labour union with their loyal companymen so workers may not create their own.

Anyone who advocates worker's rights are often branded "communists" by the elderly people, McCarthyism from US in 1950s being still very much alive in South Korea as of 2015 because it works so well for the conservative party. Korea has the lowest welfare expenditure in proportion to the country's GDP among OECD countries but the poor people who barely make ends meet always scream "you freaking communists!" and "excessive welfare spending ruins the country" whenever progressive party makes any suggestions to increasing the welfare spending.

The regionalism, the collusive link between the government and business, the corruption in this country are insurmountable not because the task is impossible but because many people are so very ignorant. Most poor South Koreans believe in trickle down effect and that the government should impose less tax on millionaires, a propaganda actively supported by government friendly media.



This will go off topic from here.

Many things go completely against common sense in my country. (compared to developed countries like Sweden)

Koreans pay more money for Korean cars with lesser materials than the cars made for exports because Korean law is so lax on huge corperations that they can ignore many emission restrictions and many Koreans, as patriotic as they are, will buy Korean products even if they are being blatantly duped.

One law for the rich and another for the poor in numerous cases.

In a municipal election of Pusan in 2005, a corpse from the conservative party won the election; his family registered him as a candidate but he was already dead by that time and still won the election without a campaign because progressive party is framed as 'communists' in this country and people will vote for conservative party no matter what.

The conservative party actually did ask North Korea to fire guns at the border so that citizens' anxiety caused by the tension will help them win the election in 1990. The scandal was revealed by media but voters STILL elected the conservative party. Duh.

Few weeks ago a worker was severely injured and lost his limb in a factory; the boss ordered his workers not to call the ambulance but treat him there because he wanted to cover up the accident and the fact that he did not adhere to the safety regulations; the worker died in pain and the scheme was discovered by CCTV. This things happen quite a lot in my country.

About a month ago a part-time-worker asked for a sick leave in his work. His boss threatened to harm him if he doesn't come. He went to work, fell sick, died few days later. The boss made excuses that he thought the worker was feigning illness.

A Korean professor was arrested few months back when he and his students abused his assistant instructor with physical violence and also forcing him to eat his turd. I'm mentioning this because the strong(using thier age, position) preying on the weak is very common in Korea. I've personally seen some apartments regidents de-humanizing and insulting janitors because of what little power they have over their employment. It's so sick.

Recently a Korean soldier was severely injured and lost limbs from North Korean landmines, and the government refused to pay the expense for his artificial hands because he received the surgery from a private hospital. Military-owned hospitals are notorious for accidents during surgery and covering them up.

Liberated from Japanese colonization of 35 years, a special assembly was created to hunt down traitors and put them on trials. Korean president Lee disbanded the assembly and no pro-Japanese collaborators were ever punished for betraying the country, as opposed to France and Nazi-controlled countries that prosecuted thousands and hung hundreds. Those pro-Japanese collaborators were appointed to the important government positions, and they framed people who fought for independence as communists and hunted them down to strengthen the president's political dictatorship. These days many descendants of pro-Japanese collaborators are still well off while the descendant independence fighters are usually impoverished.

The president Lee also fled the capital Seoul at night during the Korean war as he broadcasted a radio recording that South Korea is winning the war, then he ordered the bridge leading out of Seoul bombarded while thousands of refugee were crossing it to save his hide, killing hundreds of his own citizens in the process. Many Koreans admire him these days since "he fought the communists." This country was a freaking comedy show from its foundation.



I am sorry for the massive digression. I don't know why I wrote this exactly but I think I'm mad at all these nonsense and the fact many Koreans take these for granted. If you are living in Northern Europe you are really blessed.

What scares me most is that South Korea is probably among 'good' countries to live in if you take all the existing countries into consideration. It makes me uncomfortable when people complain how long Sweden's paid vacation is. DLCs and patches may be delayed, but on the other hand that means Swedish laws allow their people to live a good life, free from most non-senses I find so sick in my country. That is something that warms my heart to know that not every society on earth is so miserable.
 
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