What are the best ways to annex Mamluks as the Ottomans? Preferably as fast as theoretically possible?
Best ways to annex Mamluks as Ottomans?
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i think you need gaza to get the 'conquer egypt' mission. look it up.
release syria as vassal also I guess.
truce breaking doesn't sound like good idea...
release syria as vassal also I guess.
truce breaking doesn't sound like good idea...
Also you need several wars to annex them. If you go for 100% war score in a war that means 15 years truce. What you can do then is declare on an ally of the Mamluks or on someone the mamluks is guaranteeing. That way you go to war against them immediately after you peace them out. They will be weak and it should be easy to peace them out fast, just a white peace (or money if you really need the money). That way you reduce your 15 years truce to 5 (white peace truce), so you can have another 100% war against them in 5 years instead of waiting 15.
I got too many coalitions from wars in the middle east... also I would have the truce with their allies too no? Right now they have just 1 ally and they'll probably accept the call to arms...
They start guaranteeing the independence of Cyprus.
You should do the regular war with them, make peace individually with any Mamluk ally in reasonable range and break their alliance treaty (also war reparations). Take as many provinces as you can from the Mamluks, in the time you core the provinces get a claim in Cyprus and once the cores are done, declare war on Cyprus.
If the Mamluks decide to honor their guarantie, you can bypass the truce with them. If they don't... well at least you will deny them of a free vassal (they get Cyprus as vassal via an event)
You should do the regular war with them, make peace individually with any Mamluk ally in reasonable range and break their alliance treaty (also war reparations). Take as many provinces as you can from the Mamluks, in the time you core the provinces get a claim in Cyprus and once the cores are done, declare war on Cyprus.
If the Mamluks decide to honor their guarantie, you can bypass the truce with them. If they don't... well at least you will deny them of a free vassal (they get Cyprus as vassal via an event)
They ally anyone and in my game I was eating a bit of them every war when they were involved, until they were under 100% for annexation.... provinces cost double, but they were almost constantly at war with my Ottomans, so I like to think it evened out waiting truce times.
I only got single coalition war, otherwise I had either truce or war with anyone eligible... and they got like 200-400 AE until eaten.
I only got single coalition war, otherwise I had either truce or war with anyone eligible... and they got like 200-400 AE until eaten.
It's far more lucrative and less AE intensive to conquer Syria and Mesopotamia simultaneously, followed up by near Persia and Egypt proper.
Cyprus gets gobbled up by Venice now, so that's a card that can be used only once, maybe twice. Overextension-wise, Mamluks are now like a mini Ming - it will take 5-6 wars to annex them fully if that's what you really want.
Cyprus gets gobbled up by Venice now, so that's a card that can be used only once, maybe twice. Overextension-wise, Mamluks are now like a mini Ming - it will take 5-6 wars to annex them fully if that's what you really want.