Best Way To Lock Down The Colonization Game?

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I'm currently playing a game as Castille, have Aragon+Naples under a PU and they own everything south of Milan between the two. The actual thing worth noting is that I've also kicked the crap out of Portugal and annexed all of their provinces/colonies except for Lisboa, their capital. Finishing them off has got me thinking about what else I can do to destroy the competition for the Americas and later on Africa/Asia. What would your priorities be?

I'm currently thinking:

1. Kill Portugal while colonizing northern Brazil
2. Colonize Bermuda and the Caribbean while killing/vassalizing Brittany, murder any English/Norwegian colonies that appear in the Caribbean
4. Take Norway's overseas provinces while shooting for the Atlantic seaboard, if Norway is being killed by Sweden vassalize them, if Denmark inherited them leave Denmark alone unless they take Exploration
5. Take Ireland while colonizing Africa's major trade ports such as Ivory Coast and the Cape
6. Begin shredding England apart while destroying any colonies they make anywhere in the world, ruin Royal Navy after every war
7. Tag team France with Austria while cleaning up in South America

What do you guys think?
 

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Castille can get a PU over Portugal similar to the Iberian Wedding event. I wouldn't bother attacking them, just maintain close relations and hope for an eventual peaceful integration.
 

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If you have enough time, invade Scandinavia by vassal feeding Norway when the get annexed or invaded and Finland to then kill Russia (or just liberate Perm under your rule) and keep Siberia untouched.

Watch out for Netherlands when they spawn if you have not annexed France by then.
 

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If you push France heavily from early on, you can force thm to release a small ton of minors, enough so that you can vassalise France itself. Then just feed them back everything you don't want to bother with yourself (keeping everything in the Genoa node is a good play after all).

Castille can get a PU over Portugal similar to the Iberian Wedding event. I wouldn't bother attacking them, just maintain close relations and hope for an eventual peaceful integration.

That's only after 1600, at which point one could hope to have gotten a PU or just annexed them outright already.
 

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That's only after 1600, at which point one could hope to have gotten a PU or just annexed them outright already.

Not to mention that by then they would have their own colonial nations that would probably be competing in the same region with yours, inheriting them would just be more annoying events and prestige hits for elections.
 

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Not to mention that by then they would have their own colonial nations that would probably be competing in the same region with yours, inheriting them would just be more annoying events and prestige hits for elections.

Exactly!

No, I'd just annex them in a series of wars, no biggie. They're about 45-ish Base Tax, not more'n 500-600 ADM if claims and final vassalisation is used...

Also, reading through the events in FlavorSPA.txt I noticed that there're two rebel events for Italians and Portugese, so if you've got some extra DIP, getting rid of those cultures might be worth it down the line.
 

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If you conquest Portugal, take Caribbean and North America first, France and England will go there, and later go to South America, but, America is too big so you aren't gonna make it, make 2/3 big colonies and war with the other IA's colonies.
 

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Why don't you vassalise Portugal and let it colonize for you before you annex it again? I also found out doing the same with Brittany helps. I am taking a ton of colonies that way without much sweat. Plus the more your vassals colonize the less others (England/France) will do between the three of you.
 

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1. vassalize+annex Portugal asap. you dont want colonial nation from others to form
2. if you move fast then go for england after that. Scotland should still be independent at this time so ally it for help.
3. next is France. Probably fastest to concentrate on coastal provinces first
4. Britanny. can be done before or after France but if you wait and grow big enough you can diplovassalize them

5 and 6. Norway and furture netherlands provinces. do as opportunity strikes


regarding Russia, dunno if you want them taken out aswell. but if you do, do it as early as manageable, otherwise just race your colonists from africa to india to siberia and colonize the coastline to stop russia from colonizing east asia laters
 

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So England allied France, who has gone ahead and stomped Austria already. This plan died before it could even fly, even if I did take Ireland from them.