Best Way of Incorporating Morocco / Tunisia Region?

[D-A-C]

Hey guys.

I am just curious to hear from the experts what is currently the best way to deal with the region of North Africa with the penalty to core? Is it better to:

1. Bite the bullet and annex and core them bit by bit?

2. Annex and core parts and then vassalize?

3. Have both Morocco and Tunisia as two seperate vassals and diplo-annex them one at a time over the course of the game?

4. Vassalize one and feed it the others cores then diploannex the whole region in one single go?

5 Some method I haven't thought of or listed?


The whole region is so expensive but I try and grab it most games as Spain, Portugal, Ottoman's and France and was just curious about the best method for incorporating it atm?

 

[Lord Finnish]

Annex, convert provinces, release vassal, feed vassal.

 

[Aries666]

Annex, convert provinces, release vassal, feed vassal.

Pretty much this though maybe not convert and take a sunni vassal instead if you are going to take religious or you are Spain as you will have a better functioning vassal who isnt gimped by wrong religion unrest. Never core Berber lands, coring north Africa is probably more expensive than coring France and I know which I would rather have.

 

[Castrolol]

For most games I don't see any reason to even touch that area. It's far better to just trade around Africa bringing in all the Indian trade to Sevilla rather than trying to get anything through the Tuareg trade passes. The area is also dirt poor and produces barely any worthwhile trade goods.

That said the best way to deal with them is to release smaller nations, vassal feed and then annex. Dip is almost always less important than adm.

 

[D-A-C]

Thanks guys, but quick question, what's the difference between releasing and feeding a small nation, rather than just vassalizing one of the 'major's' or Morocco or Tunisia, also should you feed them the whole region or is there an optimum size?

 

[hajutze]

AFAIK Half of the modifiers are gone so you won't have a huge AE modifier with them (in case you want to integrate them faster).

 

[TheMeInTeam]

In some cases, you can do revoke cores (IE Berber stuff held by Maghreb and vice versa). Otherwise it's just going to be an expensive and slow vassal annexation, which will nevertheless be much less costly than trying to core it outright. An alternative is to just vassal Morocco or something and feed it the whole +core cost area. It'll probably westernize and wind up providing decent troops. I suppose if you're Kongo you'll have no choice though when going for that achievement.