Best plans to attack China as Japan.

[Heruure]

So, what do you guys think would be the best way to grab China as Japan?
My current plan of attack consists of landing divisions in every single port on their coast while my army keep them busy at the border.
This is as an attempt to avoid the massive supply problems Daniel had in WWW.
You guys think this would work or should i try to formulate another plan? Not really sure on how the supply system works in cases like that.

 

[Orlunu]

Two corners to start, north east and south east, for maximum concentration of forces. After that, landings through Singapore and the Nanking area, start creating pockets by denying them the one corridor of VPs and the ports.

 

[Alex_a14]

It would perhaps work, though your troops would be split up and far from each other.
Personally I would concentrat the landing to include two harbor cities, to close of the Chinese troops from the rest of China

Probably something like this.

 

[PlacidDragon]

Im not sure what would be the best strategy, it depends a lot on when you attack i imagine (the very quick attack by Daniel is good in the sense that the Chinese have seriously underequipped divisions, and needs some time to trundle out forces that can at least semi effectively oppose you. On the other hand, Japan does not have an overabundance of divisions, and dropping 2 - 3 beach heads down the coast has the potential of stretching you out too much unless you gut your islands for its garrison troops.

If you cannot cover the entire front, the Chinese, while no match in a standup fight, is likely to slip around you to surround and annihilate your forces.

Attacking at a later date would give you more divisions (if you built them), but Chinese opposition would also probably be firmer.

I think my first attempt is going to be a quick attack, with just one beach head, and when that joins up with the main advance, do a second beach head, and so forth. Well, i think, i dont know.. maybe i'll just Banzai it

 

[Dakka]

. maybe i'll just Banzai it

TENNO HEIKA BANZAIIIIII!!!

 

[Heruure]

My plan is to execute this plan in 1938 or so, i will also have as much support as USA can shove down my throat, Italy, Germany and Turkey will also send as many troops to "help" me.

 

[jcd000]

maybe i'll just Banzai it

I always try to banzai (or blitzkrieg) it :
1 front, tactical encirclements (naval invasions only if helping with encirclements), and close air support to grind down Chinese resistance.
Maybe just a very small invasion in the South to force the Chinese to commit forces there and thus relieve pressure from the North. Harass and back to ship if they respond with overwhelming force, then re-invade elsewhere.
By the time we reach the mountains, China's got to be low on IC and struggle to supply and reinforce (one and the same in HOI IV)

 

[Corner79]

In my first run through as Japan, the way I thought about it was delaying my invasion until spring of 1938 to maximise my army equipment, especially artillery and to upgrade my air force as much as possible.

When I send the main Japanese fleet on the Chinese coast, my battleships and battlecruisers will be on patrol while my carrier fleet constantly supports multiple marine landings at ports, much like which has been stated.

The Army Air Force will support bombings in the north and hopefully cut off dozens of chinese and communist divisions. Then if I can finish the war before Pearl Harbor, I will build up again to prepare for multiple invasions around the Philippines, Indochina and Indonesia while also attempting to gain naval supremacy over the United States Navy. I will definitely need some time to prepare a fleet worthy enough to battle with the USA.

 

[Invictus5966]

Remember Daniel attacked early for the crowd, less equipment and less troops


*Edit... in solo game would you have any islands garrisoned early?

 

[Adonnus]

I'll try the same as my Hoi3 plan first: Four simultaneous assaults! One from the border, one with cavalry from the Yantai peninsula to cut off Chinese troops west of there, one around Shanghai with armoured divisions to use them to attack west and then meet them up with the previously mentioned cavalry, and one in the far south to take Guangzhou and push towards the central cities of Changsha and Wuhan. It worked really well in Hoi3 and I conquered China in about 3 months, so let's see how it goes here.

 

[Warhammer]

Two corners to start, north east and south east, for maximum concentration of forces. After that, landings through Singapore and the Nanking area, start creating pockets by denying them the one corridor of VPs and the ports.

Singapore? That's rather far away (not even part of China) . You mean Taiwan or Hainan?

 

[PlacidDragon]

Singapore? That's rather far away (not even part of China) . You mean Taiwan or Hainan?

Shanghai perhaps ? (yes, Singapore would be... quite a distance away, hehe).

 

[Corner79]

Shanghai perhaps ? (yes, Singapore would be... quite a distance away, hehe).

Although after the Chinese War, I would be all over Singapore like a fat kid on a cupcake

 

[lordreaven448]

Now the question is, what are your plans after you win? I'd imagine Puppet China (incorporate PRC into Chinese puppet) and expanding into the USSR might be a good plan.

 

[Orlunu]

Singapore? That's rather far away (not even part of China) . You mean Taiwan or Hainan?

I don't even... I meant Shanghai.

Now the question is, what are your plans after you win? I'd imagine Puppet China (incorporate PRC into Chinese puppet) and expanding into the USSR might be a good plan.

I don't even plan on going to Singapore afterwards. Full on Northern Expansion for me. Take over all of Mongolia and Manchuria, as well as the Transbaikal, and help Germany bring the Soviets down nice and quickly. If the US then dogpiles in, force a landing in Alaska and hold out with the IJN there to distract them, whilst the IJA goes for an (independence) party in the Raj.

Soviet collapse in, say, the start of '43, and the US only joining in the war then, should be more than enough to ensure an Axis victory.

 

[Polar Prussia]

Well they would expect me to come from the North, East, or South. They would never expect me from the West.

 

[uishax]

Two corners to start, north east and south east, for maximum concentration of forces. After that, landings through Singapore and the Nanking area, start creating pockets by denying them the one corridor of VPs and the ports.

m8, Singaporeans would not appreciate this comment.

 

[Harada.Taro]

TENNO HEIKI BANZAIIIIII!!!

天皇陛下万歳 Tenno Heika Banzai ( not heiki which a weapon )

Otherwise for sure I would hurl from mandchoukouo my motorized divisions and land imperial marines in the most important coastal cities.

 

[Dakka]

天皇陛下万歳 Tenno Heika Banzai ( not heiki which a weapon )

Otherwise for sure I would hurl from mandchoukouo my motorized divisions and land imperial marines in the most important coastal cities.

Baaaaaah thank you. Corrected my misspelling :/

 

[Uladh88]

im currently playing hearts of iron 3 with the black ice mod as japan and i am having HUGE problems with the chinese army its just soo massive even with naval landings my troops get surrounded soo fast and just end up holding the ports and a few regions around the ports and i try not to make a huge front line to defend but this hearts of iron 4 world war wednesday seems to make it look extremly easy compared with hoi3 i hope theres alot of balance issues to be resolved and i guess ill have to wait for mods for hoi4 to get a truly great experience