Best nation to conquer the world with

[Carolus Rex]

How come nobody mentioned Austria yet ??? (I hate the power of Austria & Spain in EU 2 btw )

Austria is a bit more complex in the first century or so, because of their position, they can be attacked on all fronts and it's very hard to avoid. At least when I tried 'em.

 

[Hyzhenhok]

England in 1419 and France 1492 are about tied for easiest, I'd say.

 

[unmerged(1047)]

France 1419, well played, can be more powerful than the 1492 start In my most recent go at it, I had taken all of my core provinces *and* forcevassaled/annexed England by then, as well as diplovassaling Scotland and Eire...

 

[unmerged(25633)]

Dumb Newbie-type Question:

Has anyone ever done a world conquest with a 1617 start date?

The Corsair

 

[Grundius]

Dumb Newbie-type Question:

Has anyone ever done a world conquest with a 1617 start date?

The Corsair

I don't know, but you'll have to be pretty fast if you want to pull that off. I guess you'll have to break quite a few truces if you want to conquer the world in 200 years.

 

[unmerged(6147)]

This was probably asked and answered before, but which nation do you consider to be the easiest when it comes to conquering the world?

This question was discussed in this thread:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44205

Tha fact is that if you are reasonably experienced player a late game WC on VH is accomplishable with just about any Christian nation in Europe.

 

[unmerged(37277)]

Scenarios 1419 for WC

Aragon because he has Iberian and Italian culture. In XV century you need to counqest Italy and Iberia but you must not loose Italian culture. In XVI century when Britain, north Germany and Scandinavia go protestant you can make similar thing and ease convert your XV century territory to protestant religion.

Burgundy I like but when they have deleted german culture I have added patch. In event Luxembourg inheritance I have returned german culture to Burgundy because Luxembourg is part of HRE.
Similar thing need to be done for Denmark but I don't have will for that.

Great minors for WC about which other has not spoken:

Savoi because of French and Italian culture. In begining no great power near you.
Teutonic order or Prussia don't remember exactly which because 1 of that 2 has german and scandinavian culture. For that greatest problem is survive until 1450 but latter you can make similar like Aragon only on other side. Stay Catholic, convert Scandinavia and Germany on that faith in XVI century.

 

[unmerged(34273)]

French minors can be fun, but they are not easy.

Navarre can become France, getting iberian, basque, and french cultures. However they start with just two cores, so actually killing off France to supplant it will be hard, and you'll end up with fairly high BB. It is certainly doable, and in the long run, having Iberian culture is a huge win. But not easy at all early.

Brittany is the other minor that can become France and have an extra culture: gaelic in this case. Brittany is easier than Navarre in two ways: better positioned, and they get cores on most of France so expansion is BB-light. On the other hand, having Gaelic is not much of an advantage. The price you pay in terms of difficulty in starting the game just is not worth it.

The other minor nations that can become France just have French culture. It used to be that Luxembourg could, getting French and German cultures (which is a powerhouse). But that went away at some point.

With provence you can get italian and french.
With lorraine you can still turn into provence then into france thus having german and french cultures. If your into faul tricks you can later do what I did in my first french wc. Release and recapture catholics and huganuts thus getting rid of all you bb points. Since englands provs are poorer then french going england wins hyw makes you tech slower then france.

 

[jaddboy]

I would vote for Spain or France. England maybe third. They have nasty events that have always cause me trouble. :wacko:

But I'll second or third The Ottoman Empire as a good choice too. They have a lot of advantages: They have immediate land access to all the continents except NA and SA. They have tons of CBs to start and can get massive armies early. Their early neighbors are weak and they some great events early and have good leaders.

I know they have bad events later but by then that's more of a nuisance then a really bad thing.

Plus, sometimes I think it's better to have other nations to the colonizing, then just conquer later.

I've only tried a couple WCs and have only been nearly successful with the OE, so take my comments for what they are worth.

 

[unmerged(4344)]

BueDigre: you can't do those things in vanilla 1.08. Maybe in one of the variants. Provence has French culture, only. And Lorraine cannot turn into Provence.

Also as far as I know, the 1.07 (?) misfeature where releasing cores drops your BB has been patched. So you can't use that one any more either.

 

[unmerged(6159)]

He's playing AGCEEP - Provence can inherit Naples and get it's culture (as happened historically), and Lorraine can inherit Provence instead of France.

I like the late WC, so I've only done it with Spain.

 

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My vote goes with England - winning the hyw is fairly simple, Spain next for the gold and take it from there. Plus I've noticed that England over any other country gets loads of 'Gift to the State' events early on which tend to lower your inflation as well - always a bonus.

Most rewarding game I've played was a Byzantine WC in AGPEEP, first 50 years are hard but from then on it's plain sailing - and you get to laugh evily as you annex Venice and Genoa

 

[Grundius]

With provence you can get italian and french.
With lorraine you can still turn into provence then into france thus having german and french cultures.

So in fact with Lorraine you could get French, German AND Italian cultures? Or can you only get Italian if you are Provence from the start?

EDIT: Let me answer my own question. I just checked the events for Provence in the AGCEEP, and actually the same event that gives Italian state culture removes German as a state culture. Too bad. But let's face it: having three major state cultures IS pretty powerfull already. Now just imagine if France had all those cultures. Brrrrr....

 

[Underhand]

So in fact with Lorraine you could get French, German AND Italian cultures? Or can you only get Italian if you are Provence from the start?

EDIT: Let me answer my own question. I just checked the events for Provence in the AGCEEP, and actually the same event that gives Italian state culture removes German as a state culture. Too bad. But let's face it: having three major state cultures IS pretty powerfull already. Now just imagine if France had all those cultures. Brrrrr....

One day I'm going to remove the line:

command = { type = remove_countryculture which = german }

From that event and conquer all German, Italian, French, Dutch and Swiss culture provinces and convert the lot to Reformed Thankfully the Swiss and Dutch provinces (apart from Brabant) won't need converting.

 

[Grundius]

That sounds like a great idea, Underhand.

While you're busy, you should create an event that you can turn Lorraine (German/French) into Provence and gain Italian, then as Provence become Burgundy and gain (by moving the capital to Brabant) Dutch as a culture. After that, you become France, which, if it wins the HYW, gains Anglosaxon if they control Anglia.
So that would be France with French, German, Anglosaxon, Dutch and Italian as state cultures. Hmmmm.... Sounds good, doesn't it

 

[Underhand]

That sounds like a great idea, Underhand.

While you're busy, you should create an event that you can turn Lorraine (German/French) into Provence and gain Italian, then as Provence become Burgundy and gain (by moving the capital to Brabant) Dutch as a culture. After that, you become France, which, if it wins the HYW, gains Anglosaxon if they control Anglia.
So that would be France with French, German, Anglosaxon, Dutch and Italian as state cultures. Hmmmm.... Sounds good, doesn't it

I like the way you think! All of that'd be good to try once for a laugh, and it's all (incredibly tenuously ) justified. What about turning into Britanny for Gaelic, or Navarra for Iberian and Basque?

Just one thing though. Lorraine can already turn into Provence in the AGCEEP. What happens is you inherit Provence and then become them. This presumably happens because player countries can't be inherited. You then have to avoid holding Ile de France until the event granting you Italian culture has fired, then take the province and become France. Quite an intricate little dance already, really.

 

[Grundius]

Not to mention you have to prevent France from conquering England, while doing it yourself! Hey, great idea for an AAR

 

[Geroshabu]

noone mentioned sweden? :O
all those great leaders and decent amount of cores definately makes them one of the top choices for WC.

 

[unmerged(25609)]

Xhosa.

By all means, try it with France to learn how, and get used to the BB wars.
But conquer the world with the Xhosa? I would start the fan club myself. Not sure even Peter Ebbesen could manage that.

 

[unmerged(27839)]

noone mentioned sweden? :O
all those great leaders and decent amount of cores definately makes them one of the top choices for WC.

yeah..and Poland too.

easiest country: France